Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

On 04/11/2015 06:45 PM, Stefan Schreiber wrote:


So a serious question: For which reason (if any) would you need 28
speakers, which is a speaker count above 22.2? (could also be used to
reproduce TOA, and is an established format for film audio....   )


can't comment on the 28, but .4 is very very nice indeed.

i just built a third-order horizontal system for LAC 2015 with only two subwoofers, and it took a lot of tweaking to hide all the wrong localisation cues that two frontal subs bring. unfortunately, putting them at 0 and 180° and doing a front/back decode was not feasible due to the room layout and the fact that we also needed the subs for a frontal LCR stereo system.. i digress. hooray for a real wxy sub decode.

Another question was/is if we need subwoofers for music reproduction at all. (Most people on this list have denied the need for LFE/subs in music reproduction before.)

From a musician's perspective, the answer seems to be a clear yes IF you want to be able to feel very low frequencies. (OR you use main loudspeakers which are able to reproduce low frequencies between say 25Hz and 80Hz, if there are any...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_key_frequencies

As we see, there is very obviously a significant "LFE range" in music.

You could hear musical low spectrum notes/content also via its overtones, I guess. The difference seems to be that you could not < feel > these notes. (Think of low organ registers. BTW: Is it maybe the case that we can < hear and feel > all frequencies below the well-known flicker frequency of about 80Hz, down to the infrasound range?)

In the end, I believe that the use of subs in music reproduction makes at least some sense.

Otherwise we don't need any sub, and Jörn and Marc could save some money... :-)


Opinions?

Stefan



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