Don't want to teach grandmother to suck eggs, but...

Cross-talk cancelling is incredibly vulnerable to distortion caused by very 
early reflections from nearby surfaces- within a millisecond or even 2. (or 1 
to 2 feet - sorry, 300 to 600mm)
The desk on which your computer sits can be one source of problems - though 
this is, of course, usually symmetrically placed wrt the speakers. But a an 
adjacent wall, filling cabinet, extra monitor - all these can throw things out. 
Generally, if the right side of the field seems to collapse into the speaker, 
look to your left - and vice versa

Best way to really test it is to carefully put the laptop on a 1m high 
'platform', in the middle of a room and stand exactly facing, making sure your 
head is not within 1m of a wall or similar large reflective surface

Dr Peter Lennox
School of Technology 
University of Derby, UK
tel: 01332 593155
e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk  


-----Original Message-----
From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On 
Behalf Of Augustine Leudar
Sent: 15 June 2012 14:42
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Can anyone explain this ?

Yep for me definately works better on the left side

On 15 June 2012 14:16, Richard Furse <rich...@muse440.com> wrote:

> Yep - I concur.
>
> The Rapture3D HCTC decoders do similar things, particularly for similarly
> band-limited stuff - though this is a rather impressive example!
>
> Weirdly, I sometimes find this stuff works better on my left side than my
> right. Is that just me?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> --Richard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
> On Behalf Of Fons Adriaensen
> Sent: 12 June 2012 14:01
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Can anyone explain this ?
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:49:28PM +0100, Augustine Leudar wrote:
> > Ok so you might not get the same effect on the speakers you're using
> > and maybe its not your taste in music (its not really mine either
> > but...) several people have told me they do get this effect .
> > On this track :
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC80C-R9aiE
> >
> > a few seconds in there is a analogue bubbly sound that seems to
> > spatialise itself to and from a point around 10 inches to the left of
> > the speakers. It works on my laptop and a Imac (slightly less) and as
> > I say several others have reported the same - though one or two people
> > people do not get the effect at all. I havent tried it on normal hi fi
> > speakers. Assuming you can hear this effect how do you think it can be
> > recreated any ideas ???
>
> Sounds like some form of crosstalk cancellation.
>
> Ciao,
>
> --
> FA
>
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