> building/using a soundfield type mic using omni's?

If life gives you 4060s, then make lemonade.  I mean, a B-format microphone!

The problem gets a lot easier if you resign yourself to making something that 
will have good utility as opposed to making something optimal.

I would make a microphone array using a spherical baffle.  One can find quite a 
variety of wood spheres.  Here in the US there are spheres made of Birch with 
diameters of 1-1/2", 2", ....  Wood is great because it's cheap, easy to drill, 
and if you make a mistake you just grab another one.  


If the user doesn't intend to make use of height, I'd want to make the array a 
horizontal-only one, primarily because the drilling is a lot easier!  It's 
difficult enough to find the equator of a sphere without having to find the 
vertices of a tetrahedron inscribed in the sphere!

The choice of diameter is tough, because as previous respondents pointed out 
there is a tradeoff between SNR and bandwidth.  As you know, the 1st order 
patterns will be derived by subtracting the outputs of 2 or more of the 
capsules, and that means that the response will have to be equalized by apply 
an 
LF boost below a critical frequency determined by the diameter of the sphere.  
For an open array this is straightforward but for a spherical baffle you need 
to 
include the diffraction of the sphere.  I can calculate this, but not on the 
back of an envelope.  The spherical diffraction gives an effective gain of 6 dB 
and this is worth going before because the self noise of the 4060s is about 23 
dBA as I recall, which is good enough to be useful but not so generous as to 
allow one to easily throw it away.  So what we would like to do is to have that 
critical frequency be somewhere near the frequency at which the ear is most 
sensitive to mic hiss - about 2 to 7 kHz.  And typical usable sphere sizes just 
happen to do that.  This means that the array will only work well up to about 
10 
kHz, but then that is true of a traditional SF microphone too!

The construction may be just a little bit difficult.  It turns out to be 
difficult to find the center of a sphere once you have it in hand.  You will 
really need to use a drill press to drill the holes.  Routing the microphones 
into the sphere will also be difficult, depending on how the end of the 
microphone cables are connectorized.  It may turn out that you will want to 
drill a large hole in the sphere at a direction not populated by microphone 
capsules, and use that hole for entry of the microphones and to route them each 
into their respective holes.

Having done this before, I can give you a bit more specific info if you contact 
me off-list.

Eric Benjamin



----- Original Message ----
From: Dave Malham <[email protected]>
To: Surround Sound discussion group <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 3:54:38 AM
Subject: [Sursound] B format mic using omnis?


May seem a strange question, but anyone ever had any experience of 
building/using a soundfield type mic using omni's? I have been asked by one of 
the artists featured on The Morning Line if there's anything he could do with 
his collection of 4 DPA's (4060-bm's). Not something I'd ever really though 
about before, but as Angelo's B format hydrophone uses omni's ... 
(http://www.angelofarina.it/Public/UAM-2011/)

    Dave

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