Even though they aren’t “officially” rated walls generally speaking any drywall 
wall is going to meet the 30 minutes for light hazard, the opening protective 
maybe doesn’t, but in that case you can move down to exception 2 and calculate 
a couple heads in the communicating space, which drops you to like 4 heads, and 
probably becomes a less demanding area than a reduced remote area elsewhere and 
can be ignored.  That would be my thought anyway.

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From: Matt Grise <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 10:30 AM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] QR area reduction - area separation

I am looking at a building that has a 16' ceiling in MOST areas. There is a 
small 250sf entry vestibule that has a 24' ceiling. The vestibule is separated 
from the interior by walls and doors, but they are not fire rated (so it would
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I am looking at a building that has a 16' ceiling in MOST areas. There is a 
small 250sf entry vestibule that has a 24' ceiling. The vestibule is separated 
from the interior by walls and doors, but they are not fire rated (so it would 
not meet separation requirements for a Room Design approach per 13, 2016 ed 
11.2.3.3). The vestibule has sprinklers at its high ceiling level.

Is the unrated wall enough of a separation (draft curtain) between the ceiling 
levels to allow for a QR reduction in the area/density calc for the main floor? 
Would it be required to use a 1500sf operating area under the vestibule without 
regard to the walls?

Thanks!

Matt Grise

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