Unfortunately the definition of "cartoned" is "fully enclosing" which I think would not fit. And yes, it would be considered open top based on the description, though I have to wonder how long open cardboard containers would last during sprinkler discharge, the standard doesn't differentiate the containers material, just the construction of it.
Mike Morey 2025 NFSA Top Tech Champion * NICET IV * CFPS Project Estimator * Fire Protection Group Shambaugh & Son, LP an EMCOR Company 7614 Opportunity Drive * Fort Wayne, IN * 46825 direct 260.487.7824 / cell 260.417.0625 email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 24/7<outlook-data-detector://2/> SERVICE LINE 888.217.7055<tel:888.217.7055> [cid:[email protected]] From: Dewayne Martinez <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2025 10:15 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Dewayne Martinez <[email protected]> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Open top containers I have a customer that would like to store group A non-expanded plastic in racks. The majority of the product will be completely enclosed in a cardboard box but some of them will be in a cardboard box but with no top. Am I right to consider ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart Be Careful With This Message The sender's identity could not be verified and someone may be impersonating the sender. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd I have a customer that would like to store group A non-expanded plastic in racks. The majority of the product will be completely enclosed in a cardboard box but some of them will be in a cardboard box but with no top. Am I right to consider the ones with no top as an "open-top" container and must be stored only on the lowest level of the racks? Would these now be considered exposed non-expanded plastic. I was thinking no because the packaging surrounding the commodity will absorb water and retard the burning hazard of the commodity. Thank you, Dewayne Martinez Fire Protection Design Manager TOTAL Mechanical Building Integrity W234 N2830 Paul Rd. Pewaukee, WI 53072 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Ph: 262-522-7110 Cell: 414-406-5208 http://www.total-mechanical.com/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.total-mechanical.com/__;!!FaxH778!Zvhu4UJe86vK2J2iiS3Z2Tas1SrsMi9fObH7QmNxvhf4M0Cpue4KlRKbfnEcz2lR5AeWHzXXkEDl9UmEsTI3N9ZeWZk$> [cid:[email protected]] This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.
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