I tried not to respond since the word "Cost" was mentioned, but I like Brian.

Brian, in this day and time, do not provide anything beyond the hard 
information before you. Of course, your relationship to the GC in question is 
imparative. But I think based on the question, this might be  a "street" price, 
and not negotiated.

If you do, be specific. Budget Price is for 1000gpm@100psi, horizontal split 
case pump. Tank is 40k volume. Sizes beyond or below stated, must be addressed 
as change to provided contract price.

As others have mentioned, you are setting yourself up to be the "fall guy" 
otherwise.

Just my "cost" of .01 cent.

R/
Matt


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The greater of $15 times the number of gallons of water to be impounded or the 
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On Apr 16, 2025 at 6:43 PM, <Tstone52<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

This is why a Good idea to hire a sprinkler Designer or FPE to evaluate the 
project ahead of Bidding!

G Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
Vermont



On Apr 16, 2025 at 4:18 PM, <Eric Rieve<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


This is probably a touchy subject, but the correct answer is just not to give 
one. There are so many variables between pump size, motor type, total water 
demand, tank material, etc. that any “ballpark” would be worthless without a 
pile of RFIs.



Ballparks are just traps so the GC can tell the owner that it’s your fault when 
the actual price is massively higher after the full scope of trades costs are 
included. Just exclude fire pumps and water tanks unless specifically 
identified by the design documents if it is a bid project.



My 2 cents at-least.



Eric Rieve

Rieve Fire Protection



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Curious what most people do when bidding a project that may or may not need a 
pump and tank and the GC just wants a “ballpark” adder. Is there a quick 
general rule, say dollars/per gallon for the tank, or do you get actual quotes

Curious what most people do when bidding a project that may or may not need a 
pump and tank and the GC just wants a “ballpark” adder. Is there a quick 
general rule, say dollars/per gallon for the tank, or do you get actual quotes 
on a few different sizes?



Thank you,



Brian Harris, CET

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