Ballpark numbers require some knowledge of costs and some knowledge of the 
requirements of the system.  If you have no clue what size pump you need or the 
type or configuration, and no idea of tank volume, there's no way to provide a 
cost estimate that is of any value to anybody.

When giving a ball park number it's always best to give a range, not a specific 
number.  If your company has an estimator, ask them.

Most of the time those asking don't know what the cost is and just need some 
kind of idea of whether it's $10K or $900K.  A ballpark number is not a firm 
cost.  Always write down what your number includes and doesn't include.

It's not atypical to have a client ask for a ballpark number before they ask 
for a solid cost estimate for the change. That's when you get quotes and all 
disciplines involved to be sure everything is covered.

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From: Eric Rieve <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 4:18 PM
To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Re: Pump/ Tank Budget Numbers

This is probably a touchy subject, but the correct answer is just not to give 
one. There are so many variables between pump size, motor type, total water 
demand, tank material, etc. that any "ballpark" would be worthless without

This is probably a touchy subject, but the correct answer is just not to give 
one. There are so many variables between pump size, motor type, total water 
demand, tank material, etc. that any "ballpark" would be worthless without a 
pile of RFIs.

Ballparks are just traps so the GC can tell the owner that it's your fault when 
the actual price is massively higher after the full scope of trades costs are 
included. Just exclude fire pumps and water tanks unless specifically 
identified by the design documents if it is a bid project.

My 2 cents at-least.

Eric Rieve
Rieve Fire Protection

From: Brian Harris <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 3:09 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Pump/ Tank Budget Numbers

Curious what most people do when bidding a project that may or may not need a 
pump and tank and the GC just wants a "ballpark" adder. Is there a quick 
general rule, say dollars/per gallon for the tank, or do you get actual quotes

Curious what most people do when bidding a project that may or may not need a 
pump and tank and the GC just wants a "ballpark" adder. Is there a quick 
general rule, say dollars/per gallon for the tank, or do you get actual quotes 
on a few different sizes?

Thank you,

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
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