Todd per nfpa the pipe schedule system still gets calc plate just put pipe 
schedule system on it.


Thanks



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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Missing Hydraulic Design riser tags

One of the things that I see, living in an area with 80+ year old systems, is 
that the newer inspectors are asking for calc signs on pipe schedule systems. 
Hydraulically calculating pipe schedule system can be a disaster. They are 2 
separate

One of the things that I see, living in an area with 80+ year old systems, is 
that the newer inspectors are asking for calc signs on pipe schedule systems. 
Hydraulically calculating  pipe schedule system can be a disaster. They are 2 
separate and individual system designs. A system may not necessarily meet both 
sets of criteria.

A good example is a school in my town that has a pipe schedule system installed 
in the 1950s. I was asked to do a hydraulic calculation. The 2535 sqft design 
area in the attic contained 54 sprinklers. No way that calc was going to work.

We probably should be labeling pipe schedule systems as such.

Todd Williams
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860-608-4559


On Jul 30, 2024 at 10:56 AM, <Ken Wagoner<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

There is certainly an issue on that missing information.  NFPA 25 addresses the 
need for this sign/information in ยง5.2.5 (2023 ed). And some of the "enhanced 
content" on NFPA Link to this section that this is to be noted as a 
"deficiency", although it is a "noncritical" deficiency as it doesn't impair 
the ability of the system to function in a fire.

I've done considerable work on existing buildings which were being repurposed 
from a factory to storage, and without this information the costs of the 
revisions went way up since a retro set of calculations had to be performed.

just my thoughts,
Ken Wagoner, SET
Parsley Consulting
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Harrisonville, Missouri 64701-2235
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