Me too. I think I remember you from then. Todd Williams
Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-608-4559 > > On Mar 29, 2024 at 2:28 PM, <Dwight Havens (mailto:[email protected])> > wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, Todd. Back in the Boston District Office, some 40-plus years ago. > > > > Regards, > > > > Dwight Havens > > Pre-planning Engineer > > Round Lake Fire Department > > > > Still volunteering, now in Malta, NY. > > > > > > On Friday, March 29, 2024 at 10:23:44 AM EDT, Fpdcdesign > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dwight, > > > > That is pretty much what I have said. I am proposing adding a hose valve in a > common area and submit to the AHJ to add this arrangement in their fire > planning. > > > From a practical standpoint, the FD would fight a fire in the main > occupied areas from the hydrant across the street. If you saw the building, > you would get it. > > > BTW, did you work for FM Boston Office many decades ago? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 2024 at 10:41 AM, <Dwight Havens > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Todd, > > > > > > > > As a retired AHJ, my opinion would be that you do not need the hose valves > > on the first-floor standpipe risers for fighting a fire on the first floor, > > since access to the first floor is not gained through the stairwells. > > > > > > > > However, you'd need to pass that by the fire chief of the department > > responsible for providing that service, and the permitting authority for > > the installation for approval. One of the last things that you want to do > > is create a condition that is not expected by the fire department, so such > > an arrangement needs to be incorporated into the building preplan. > > > > > > > > As a firefighter, I would expect that hose outlet to be there (on the first > > floor in the stairwell). We use it for fighting fires on the second > > floor, and as an alternate method of supplying the standpipes if for some > > reason the fire department connection is dysfunctional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a small 4 story building where we are required to install > > a standpipe (as well as a full 13 sprinkler system). The first floor > > consists of a conference area, office space and various mechanical and > > storage rooms. The conference space and office area have direct access to > > the outside, but there is no communicating space between them. The 2 > > stairways lead to an outside access only. The elevator lobby has an outside > > door but does not connect to the stairways or conference and office spaces. > > The total footprint of the building is less than 3000 sqft. > > > > > > > > Where do you put the hose valve on the 1st floor? > > > > > > > > Todd G Williams, PE > > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > > > > Stonington, CT > > > > 860-535-2080 (ofc) > > > > 860-554-7054 (fax) > > > > 860-608-4559 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > SprinklerForum mailing list: > > > > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > > mailing list: > > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] > (mailto:[email protected]) > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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