Yes, Todd. Back in the Boston District Office, some 40-plus years ago.
Regards,
Dwight HavensPre-planning EngineerRound Lake Fire Department
Still volunteering, now in Malta, NY.
On Friday, March 29, 2024 at 10:23:44 AM EDT, Fpdcdesign
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dwight,
That is pretty much what I have said. I am proposing adding a hose valve in a
common area and submit to the AHJ to add this arrangement in their fire
planning.
>From a practical standpoint, the FD would fight a fire in the main occupied
>areas from the hydrant across the street. If you saw the building, you would
>get it.
BTW, did you work for FM Boston Office many decades ago?
On Mar 28, 2024 at 10:41 AM, <Dwight Havens> wrote:
Todd,
As a retired AHJ, my opinion would be that you do not need the hose valves on
the first-floor standpipe risers for fighting a fire on the first floor, since
access to the first floor is not gained through the stairwells.
However, you'd need to pass that by the fire chief of the department
responsible for providing that service, and the permitting authority for the
installation for approval. One of the last things that you want to do is create
a condition that is not expected by the fire department, so such an arrangement
needs to be incorporated into the building preplan.
As a firefighter, I would expect that hose outlet to be there (on the first
floor in the stairwell). We use it for fighting fires on the second floor, and
as an alternate method of supplying the standpipes if for some reason the fire
department connection is dysfunctional.
I am working on a small 4 story building where we are required to install a
standpipe (as well as a full 13 sprinkler system). The first floor consists of
a conference area, office space and various mechanical and storage rooms. The
conference space and office area have direct access to the outside, but there
is no communicating space between them. The 2 stairways lead to an outside
access only. The elevator lobby has an outside door but does not connect to the
stairways or conference and office spaces. The total footprint of the building
is less than 3000 sqft.
Where do you put the hose valve on the 1st floor?
Todd G Williams, PEFire Protection Design/ConsultingStonington, CT860-535-2080
(ofc)860-554-7054 (fax)860-608-4559 (cell)
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