I think he was being sarcastic about locating a backflow and riser in a stair tower.
Joe Burtell Fire Sprinkler Manager D C 406-204-4653 406-861-4507 From: Steve Leyton <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 8:34 AM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <[email protected]> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Backflow In Stairwell CAUTION: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not follow guidance, click links, or open attachments unless you KNOW the content is safe. Are you talking about a rooftop ladder? That's not an exit stair and also not in an egress pathway. Steve Leyton (Sent from my smartphone; please excuse typos and voice-to-text corruptions.) -------- Original message -------- From: Jeff Garrison <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 1/16/24 6:19 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Backflow In Stairwell You should ask - why are they allowed to put a stairs in the Riser Room? Jeff Garrison 248-878-1458 - cell On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:15 AM Greg McGahan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We have seen in several times. On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 5:16 PM Brian Harris <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thank you!! 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From: Dewayne Martinez <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 12:47 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Dewayne Martinez <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Backflow In Stairwell CAUTION: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not follow guidance, click links, or open attachments unless you KNOW the content is safe. I think that the only pipe allowed in a stairwell has to be associated with the stairwell IE: standpipe or piping supplying sprinklers for the stairwell. We are on the 2015 IBC and I was flagged by the state reviewer for running a bulk pipe in the stairwell. Had to move it out into a closet. From: Brian Harris <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 1:03 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Backflow In Stairwell Is there anything inherently wrong with putting the backflow & riser in a stairwell as along as all clearance requirements are met? I don’t see anything in NFPA-13 and don’t currently have access to the Building Code. 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