Ditto to Greg. A couple of years ago I saw a pump and backflow under a stair. Usually on the ground floor out of the way or any travel path. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (tel:860-535-2080) (ofc) 860-554-7054 (tel:860-554-7054) (fax) 860-608-4559 (tel:860-608-4559) (cell)
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