Good morning,

Can someone please provide the actual NFPA 14, code reference for this 
requirement?

Thank you for the assistance.

Sincerely,

Daniel S. Failla Jr. | Deputy Fire Marshal
Charleston Fire Department
Fire Marshal Division
2 George Street, Suite 3800 | Charleston, SC 29401
T:(843) 724-5960 | F:(843) 720-5857 |  [email protected]  |  
www.charleston-sc.gov/fire





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If you want the big east coast city rule. Here it is.

“ Pressure shall be maintained in the standpipe and cross connections at all 
times and shall not exceed 25 psig (172 kPag) by utilizing nitrogen or an air 
compressor with an air dryer”

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On Oct 20, 2021, at 9:18 PM, cw bamford via Sprinklerforum 
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Can somebody on East Coast big city please respond?

What about  using a PS15   Nominal System Pressure 15 psi  low pressure
switch on the dry system standpipe?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:08 PM Mike Morey via Sprinklerforum < 
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I don’t know that their is an express limit other than minimum 7psi.  That said 
for safety reasons if you have an air source capable of anything close to that 
I’d come up with something to regulate it.  Doesn’t 13 limit air testing to 60 
psi for safety?  Air pressure is much more dangerous than water as far as 
amount of energy stored.


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Having an interesting discussion with a senior field man.

He is concerned that some of the compressors pump to 125 +/-, and was asking 
about an AMD.

I have searched, and also from a hands-on standpoint, do not believe one is 
required.

It certainly is if we introduce a dry valve or deluge into the standpipe 
system, but then it gets a different name.

NFPA 72 only mentions a 10 psi differential for supervisory circuits with air.

Is an AMD required on this type standpipe?

R/
Matt

Matthew J. Willis
Design Manager / Code Compliance
1530 Samco Road, Rapid City, SD 57702
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