Tarek, indeed …

draft-bestbar-spring-scalable-ns-00 provides a relevant example of the rather 
enormous amount of state the solution described in 
draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn results in:

   "Notably, this approach requires maintaining per slice state for each
   topological element on every router in the network in both the
   control and data plane.  For example, a network composed of 'N'
   nodes, where each node has up to 'K' adjacencies to its neighbors, a
   node would have to assign and advertise 'M' Slice Prefix-SIDs and 'M'
   Slice Adjacency-SID(s) to each of it 'K' adjacencies.  Consequently,
   a router will have to maintain up to (N+K)*M SIDs in the control
   plane, and an equal number of label routes in its forwarding plane."


Put in practical terms, this implicitly limits the number of VTNs or, in 
draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet-01 terminology, the number of Slice aggregates 
that can be offered.  It also introduces a dependency between the network size 
and the number of VTNs.  i.e. the larger the network, the smaller the number of 
VTNs that can be supported.

—Colby

> On Feb 2, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Tarek Saad <tsaad=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eduard,
>  
> Inline..
>  
> On 2/2/21, 10:50 AM, "spring on behalf of Vasilenko Eduard" 
> <spring-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of vasilenko.edu...@huawei.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> There is the general trend to encode the action into the packet, not to 
> distribute states in the control plane for all possible traffic types. 
> Granularity, programmability are better.
>  
> [TS]: Indeed, we are in agreement on encoding the information in packet as 
> opposed to distributing states in the control plane. In 
> draft-bestbar-spring-scalable-ns, a separate ID inside the packet is proposed 
> to carry the needed information. However, this draft 
> <draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn> is proposing distributing per VTN 
> state in the network which is completely against your argument ...
>  
> Regards,
> Tarek
>  
>  
>  
> This type of virtualization is fully in-line with this trend.
> Support.
> Eduard
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> Dear WG:
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