Henrik Ingo writes ("Re: 2017 update to the SPI voting algorithm for Board elections [and 1 more messages]"): > Just wanted to share some more information on the Helios voting software:
Thanks. > While a homomorphic e-voting algorithm is arguably better in many > ways, a fundamental property of such algorithms tends to be that they > can only be used to vote for N-out-of-M options. I see. Thanks. That wasn't clear from the docs. > > Let's fix our voting system[1] first and then think about improving > > our ballot casting protocol. > > If the current proposal is to simply change the software that counts > the votes, and continue using the current system for actually casting > the vote, then I agree 100%. Yes, that is the current proposal. Thanks. Barak A. Pearlmutter writes ("Re: 2017 update to the SPI voting algorithm for Board elections [and 1 more messages]"): > However I do feel obligated to correct a simple incorrect statement, > namely that STV, a proportional representation system built upon > IRV, is in some sense best-of-breed. I'm sorry if this is going to sound tetchy, but we have had this discussion ad infinitum. As I say in the draft resolution: 2. The Single Transferrable Vote is a very widely-adopted proportional preferential voting system. (And may be the only such system.) I think this is not quite as precise and therefore not as strong as it should be. I think I should replace it with something like this: 2. There are very few widely-adopted proportional voting systems. The Single Transferrable Vote is the only one which is suitable SPI's Board elections. All the others depend on the existence of parties. It's not the case that I am saying STV is "best of breed". STV is _the only serious candidate_ (given that AMS, party lists, and so on, are plainly unsuitable). I find your continuing advocacy of RRV incomprehensible, particularly after we had that very long exchange of emails in August. RRV is not an established voting system. Almost no-one else is using it. Civil society bodies, interested in general voting reform for public elections, support STV. Furtherrmore, range voting, of which RRV is a variant, has the critical flaw that it encourages naive voters to cast ineffective ballots. Finally, SPI should not be in the business of voting system innovation. Nor should SPI be in the business of doing our own detailed analysis of voting systems, as you are doing. We should leave voting system development, analysis, and recommendation, to civil society organisations specialising in voting reform, such as Fair Votes Canada and the UK Electoral Reform Society. I explained all of this first on list, and then at length in private email to you. In any case, the SPI Board have asked me to draft a resolution. Implicitly, the Board have therefore experessed an intention to endorse my recommendation of STV. I am going to proceed on that basis. Thanks, Ian. _______________________________________________ Spi-general mailing list Spi-general@lists.spi-inc.org http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general