On 08/18/2016 07:53 PM, Bdale Garbee wrote:

Frankly, though, the fact that anyone can install the ikiwiki processor
locally and apply it to a checked out copy of the web content git
repository means that it may just be a better plan to assume that anyone
who wants to contribute will be willing to "figure things out"...

Comments like this essentially equate to:

SPI in its current incarnation is a great silo for a lot of really smart people who face each other saying, "we know best" while everyone else drives by the farm.

While I was still on Board. I was asked to update my contact information. I had to:

* Supply a ssh key
* Learn the basic configuration (URL etc...) of the SPI git repository
* Deal with an acrimonious board member because I misread the url
* Remember my basic git commands (I use it maybe once/twice a year outside of a git clone/git diff)
* Edit a *TEXT FILE* that contained contact information

This is not 1982. This should *all* be in a CMS/CRM, backed to a proper database (PostgreSQL ;)). The information should be a part of my membership profile. I should (at the time) be a member of the "board" role.

I just joined OpenSource.org (literally). They use CiviCRM. Looking objectively at their site, I have learned more about Open Source/FreeSoftware, Community, Licensing, Contributing and events than I learned in the entire time I have a been a member of SPI.

I wonder if they have these same issues or if they realized like most of the productive world that at some point you compromise for the larger goal.

Sincerely,

JD



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