On 2016-08-14 21:27, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Jonathan McDowell <nood...@earth.li> [2016-08-14 21:25]:
Contributions to the SPI website went up significantly by moving from
Plone to ikiwiki, and the website became much more current. Empirical
evidence thus suggests we're much better off where we currently are.
Based on experience managing a number of wikis I think the workload
involved in helping people who want to contribute at present but can't
deal with ikiwiki is significantly lower than dealing with an open (or
even approval based) wiki or CMS.
Agreed.

We're definitely open to contributors but we don't use a CMS and
despite using ikiwiki the web site is also not a wiki.  SPI's web site
is a static web site generated with ikiwiki from Markdown.

Thank you Martin.

   You also
cannot edit debian.org directly, for example, but contributions are
welcome.  Same with SPI.

Debian's situation is far from perfect despite important advances, but it is 
better than SPI's in a number of important ways. Specifically about the 
possibility to edit directly, while you are right if focusing on 
www.debian.org, that is not the case with wiki.debian.org, which would be 
approximately as important as www.debian.org, despite being quite newer.

   The git repository is available (there's a
link from the front page) and you're welcome to send patches or pull
requests.  The webmaster email is also displayed for those wanting to
provide feedback.

If someone makes sustained contributions, I'm sure we'd be happy to
give direct access to the git repo.


While having to learn a new syntax is already quite a disadvantage, at least 
for me, having to send patches to an opaque system whose performance I cannot 
evaluate multiplies my hesitation. Knowing that a direct access would come 
would help, but only those who will make sustained contributions and who 
already know they will. If you meant to encourage contribution, I am not the 
person to address. Experience has taught me not to contribute in such 
conditions. Putting such a statement on the website *might* help.

--
Filipus Klutiero
http://www.philippecloutier.com

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