I have been seeing this also, with 2.55 and 2.6. I had been working with
the theory that it had to do with Postfix's content filter system. but
since you are using procmail, perhaps that is not the case. My guess was
that spamd was taking too long, and the message was getting forwarded
anyway. The frequency went way down when I fixed some of the network
tests and disabled osirusoft and orbs. But I still see 5 or six a day
out of some 300 spams detected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Puhek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SAtalk] SA 2.60 occasionally does no markup on spam


I've been running my email through SA 2.60 to test my installation 
before converting all our users. Things have been running great, with 
one exception. On occasion, a spam will slip through, with absolutely no

SA markup in the headers or subject line.

I've tried manually piping the messages in question through 
spamassassin, and I receive "good" output (SA tags the message).

I call spamc from procmail as follows:

:0fw
* < 700000
|/usr/bin/spamc -s 700000 -d <test_machine_ip> -p 783

The messages are not overly large, so they're not bypassing the size
limit.

I turned on debugging in spamd, and didn't see anything too out of the 
ordinary, aside from an unable to parse bayes_path message. I did see a 
message complaining about the Pyzor response, but SA seems to have 
continued running just fine, even learing the message as spam.

spamd log output is below. Any ideas?

Thanks!

--Rich

Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21823]: logmsg: connection from smtp.2z.net 
[65.126.64.22] at port 33701
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21823]: connection from smtp.2z.net 
[65.126.64.22] at port 33701
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: logmsg: info: setuid to rpuhek
succeeded Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: info: setuid to rpuhek
succeeded Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Failed to parse line
in 
SpamAssassin configuration, skipping:
bayes_path^I/home/rpuhek/.spamassassin
/bayes
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: user has changed
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 untie-ing Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 tie-ing to DB 
file R/O /home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 tie-ing to DB 
file R/O /home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: found bayes db version
2 Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Score set 3 chosen. Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: logmsg: processing message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for rpuhek:1000.
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: processing message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for rpuhek:1000.
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: received-header: parsed as [ 
ip=65.126.64.13 rdns=mx1.2z.net helo=wendy.2z.net by=smithers.2z.net id
ent= ] Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver 
available? yes
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: looking up PTR record for 
'219.145.248.27'
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: PTR for '219.145.248.27': ''
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: received-header: parsed as [ 
ip=219.145.248.27 rdns=219.145.248.27 helo=hotmail.com by=wendy.2z.net
ident= ] Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: received-header:
relay 
65.126.64.13 trusted? yes
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: received-header: relay 
219.145.248.27 trusted? no
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: all '*From' addrs: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: running header regexp tests; 
score so far=0
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: running body-text per-line 
regexp tests; score so far=0
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes corpus size: nspam = 
2965, nham = 1347
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: uri tests: Done uriRE Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *p 
= "U*archie_millsqs D*email.com D*com"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *M

= " CLEEPNLFHINIHKLPPBBIKFFMGJAB archie_millsqs email com "
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *F

= "U*archie_millsqs D*email.com D*com"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for To

= "U*paula D*2z.net D*net U*oracle D*2z.net D*net U*rh D*2z.net D*net
  U*rich D*2z.net D*net"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for 
MIME-Version = ""
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for 
X-MIMEOLE = "Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *x

= "Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *c

= "/html"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for 
Content-Transfer-Encoding = "base64"
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *r

= "  hotmail.com ([219.145.248]) by wendy.2z.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debia
n-6.4)      ; "
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *r

= "  hotmail.com ([219.145.248]) by wendy.2z.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debia
n-6.4)      ;    wendy.2z.net ([127.0.0]) by localhost (wendy [127.0.0])

(amavisd-new, port 10024)   LMTP id 24727-03; "
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*c:html' => 
0.999948212083847
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'HTo:U*rich' => 
0.999829583179639
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'inches' => 
0.999608806096528
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 
'HContent-Transfer-Encoding:base64' => 0.999572617946346
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 
'N:HContent-Transfer-Encoding:baseNN' => 0.999572617946346
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'UD:us' => 
0.999243862520458
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'sk:www.her' => 
0.999231281198003
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'out.html' => 
0.998295202952029
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*p:D*email.com' 
=> 0.998229885057471
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:NNt' => 
0.997909502262443
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*F:D*email.com' 
=> 0.997701492537313
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:oN.gif' => 
0.996723404255319
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'HTo:U*rh' => 
0.996723404255319
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'UD:US' => 
0.994296296296296
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:NNh' => 
0.994296296296296
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'o2.gif' => 
0.993492957746479
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:personalN' => 
0.993492957746479
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token '68ps' => 
0.988731707317073
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:NNps' => 
0.988731707317073
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'UD:herbalplus.us'

=> 0.988731707317073
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token '61t' => 
0.988731707317073
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'personal7' => 
0.988731707317073
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:enpN_NN.jpg' =>

0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_01.gif' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token '6Ces' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_06.gif' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_05.gif' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_04.gif' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:NCes' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:enpN_NN.gif' =>

0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_07.gif' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_03.gif' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'enp2_02.jpg' => 
0.985096774193548
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'HTo:U*paula' =>
0.978 Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:bolikNN'
=> 0.958 Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'bolik15'
=> 0.958 Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token
'N:NNN.N.NNN.NNN' 
=> 0.958
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token '213.4.130.210' =>

0.958
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token '63h' => 0.958 Oct
13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'UD:jpg' => 
0.957009329127376
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:HTo:D*Nz.net' 
=> 0.920973480044405
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'HTo:D*2z.net' => 
0.920973480044405
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'URI' => 
0.918856256721628
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*r:wendy' => 
0.899008553621719
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*r:LMTP' => 
0.880165402893044
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 
'HX-MIMEOLE:V6.00.2800.1106' => 0.876131116858853
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*r:Debian-6.4' 
=> 0.863373622588967
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'Patch' => 
0.860546998525557
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:H*r:NNNNN-NN' 
=> 0.857492539342216
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*r:10024' => 
0.852099860216912
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*r:amavisd-new' 
=> 0.852099860216912
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'N:H*r:Debian-N.N'

=> 0.846924216484057
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*x:9.0.2910.0' 
=> 0.846602418856847
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes token 'H*x:Outlook' => 
0.846254782316645
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: score = 1
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 untie-ing Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 untie-ing db_toks Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 untie-ing db_seen Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Razor2 is not available Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: running raw-body-text per-line 
regexp tests; score so far=2.837
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: running uri tests; score so 
far=4.406
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: uri tests: Done uriRE Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: running full-text regexp 
tests; score so far=5.283
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Razor2 is not available Oct 13
12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: DCCifd is not available: no 
r/w dccifd socket found.
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: DCC is not available: no 
executable dccproc found.
Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Pyzor is available:
/usr/bin/pyzor Oct 13 12:16:40 stan spamd[21861]: debug: entering
helper-app run mode Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Pyzor: got
response: Traceback 
(most recent call last):
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: leaving helper-app run mode
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Pyzor: couldn't grok response 
"Traceback (most recent call last):"
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: all '*To' addrs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Received: no rDNS for dotcom 
HELO: from=219.145.248.27 HELO=hotmail.com
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: forged-HELO: 
from=219.145.248.27 helo=hotmail.com by=2z.net
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: forged-HELO: mismatch on HELO:

'hotmail.com' != '219.145.248.27'
Oct 13 12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: DNS MX records found: 2 Oct 13
12:16:41 stan spamd[21861]: debug: rdns/helo mismatch: 
helo=hotmail.com rdns=219.145.248.27
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: RBL: success for 14 of 15
queries Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: RBL: timeout for znet
after 2 
seconds
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: running meta tests; score so 
far=14.915
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: auto-learn? ham=0.1, spam=12, 
body-hits=7.283, head-hits=11.201
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: auto-learn: currently using 
scoreset 3.  recomputing score based on scoreset 1.
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Score set 1 chosen. Oct 13
12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: auto-learn: original score: 
15.916, recomputed score: 13.486
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Score set 3 chosen. Oct 13
12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: auto-learn? yes, spam (13.486 
 > 12)
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: Learning Spam
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: uri tests: Done uriRE Oct 13
12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: lock: 21861 created 
/home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes.lock.stan.etnsystems.com.21861
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: lock: 21861 trying to get lock

on /home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes with 0 retries
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: lock: 21861 link to 
/home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes.lock: link ok
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 tie-ing to DB 
file R/W /home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: 21861 tie-ing to DB 
file R/W /home/rpuhek/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: bayes: found bayes db version
2 Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for
*p 
= "U*archie_millsqs D*email.com D*com"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *M

= " CLEEPNLFHINIHKLPPBBIKFFMGJAB archie_millsqs email com "
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *F

= "U*archie_millsqs D*email.com D*com"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for To

= "U*paula D*2z.net D*net U*oracle D*2z.net D*net U*rh D*2z.net D*net
  U*rich D*2z.net D*net"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for 
MIME-Version = ""
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for 
X-MIMEOLE = "Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *x

= "Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *c

= "/html"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for 
Content-Transfer-Encoding = "base64"
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *r

= "  hotmail.com ([219.145.248]) by wendy.2z.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debia
n-6.4)      ; "
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21861]: debug: tokenize: header tokens for *r

= "  hotmail.com ([219.145.248]) by wendy.2z.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debia
n-6.4)      ;    wendy.2z.net ([127.0.0]) by localhost (wendy [127.0.0])

(amavisd-new, port 10024)   LMTP id 24727-03; "
Oct 13 12:16:42 stan spamd[21823]: debug: cleaned up kid 21861, pool=6


_________________________________________________________

Rich Puhek
ETN Systems Inc.
2125 1st Ave East
Hibbing MN 55746

tel:   218.262.1130
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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