Thanks for the input ... gives me a better understanding of the implications
...

I tried to grep for MSG_ID in the cf files and could not find anything ...
this could be a useful rule to incorporate I think as it was blocking A LOT
of spam for us.

James Herschel


-----Original Message-----
From: Gilson, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:10 PM
To: 'James Herschel'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sourceforge. Net
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Is no message-id header a good measure of spam?

Hi James,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Herschel

> What I'm asking is:
> 1. Is the lack of a message-id header an accurate measure of spam?
> 2. Is this a rule in SpamAssassin? I haven't seen it in any reports

The Message-Id is an optional field.  From what I have seen from posts over
the last week or so, there is legitimate mail that does not send a
Messgage-ID.  There is also a large number of messages that do not have a
Message-Id.  Most MTAs will add a Message-Id if one does not exist.

Is it accurate?  If by that you mean you might see more spam without a
Message-Id than with one, then the answer is probably yes.  Might you get
FPs?  Yes.

My MTA (relay - no local accounts) addes a Message-Id of one does not exist.
I created a custom rule to look for Message-Ids created by my relay and give
it points.  This rule may not work well if users were sending mail through
the mailserver.  In my specific configuration I have been very successful
looking for Message-Ids created by my gateway.  Success is very dependent on
your setup and environment.

--Larry



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