At 12:47 PM 8/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
You and every spammer out there would love to know from a simple web
page what SA would think of their messages...  Why don't you just save a
copy of the full message you've received on an outside account and then
spamassassin -tD < testmessage?

Really I don't think a website would benefit spammers very much.. They already have local copies installed and are using it. However, it's not really of much benefit to anyone, because it's easier to just pipe a copy of your mail through a local copy of SA than it is to punch it into some website.


In general many of the SA users need to stop mistaking spammers for being too stupid to install and test against SA. These people have been hacking servers, abusing open proxies, and using open SMTP relays for years. Installing and using SA is NOT a challenge for the better spammers, and their behavior already reflects that they are already actively testing against SA and tuning their emails to increase their chances of getting by it.

The infamous abuse of bug 1589 illustrates the fact that spammers are testing against SA with unquestionable clarity. And it's nothing new, they were doing it before then too, that's just one of the most dramatic examples.





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