On 08/11/03 05:12 PM, Hannu Liljemark sat at the `puter and typed:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 03:21:00PM +0300, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> 
> > > Most seem to score in BAYES_30 range in your current
> > > environment, but with some training I'm willing to bet you'll see
> > > BAYES_90 for the same mails.
> > 
> > Always.  Every day, I archive the spam folder of all the messages
> > received the previous day. 
> 
> Okay, sounds good. I just thought it was weird to see the spams
> matching BAYES_30 with your bayes db when here (with whatever tokens
> the db holds currently, without sa-learn'ing your samples) the mails
> hit BAYES_90.

You know, I am regularly pruning the bayes db, and I haven't gotten
any of these particular messages until just recently.  I suppose this
particular tagset may have been cycled out of my db.  It will probably
pick back up once bayes has had a chance to relearn them.

> > I use Razor and whatever else SA checks by default.  Though I often
> > see messages that were flagged as probably spam by one DSBL or
> > another, but still fall under the 5.0 mark.
> 
> Maybe the proxies were added to the RBLs very recently and weren't there
> the moment you got the mails. And same with Razor; perhaps the checksums
> for those mails weren't listed yet.

Good point.  In the past, I have seen messages score higher when
rechecking them for this exact reason.  Of course, there's no way to
tell SA to wait and check again in an hour to see if someone else
reported it (and who would want to do that anyway), so no sense
worrying about it :)

> Anyways with 2.55 the mails score high (I have added around +1 to
> bunch of RBL tests, Razor and BAYES_90 scoring, though).

I am running 2.55, but for the most part, I am using the defaults
(only one whitelisted address, and one blacklisted address in my
user_prefs).  Overall, I've been very impressed with it's accuracy.
Until these messages started coming about a week and a half ago, I was
effectively getting about 100% accuracy, meaning one or two FNs per
1000 messages and only one FP since about a week after 2.55 was
installed (that's when the bayes scores really started kicking in).

Thanks for the feedback.

Lou
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