Also I just had a thought, does SA add any (alot) of points if it detects it
as two mailers (say a spammer trying to get his message past SA)?

-----Mensaje original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
Enviado el: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:31 PM
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [SAtalk] UebiMiau Spam


On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:08, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > While the Date clearly is a bug in the webmail client and should be
> > reported there,
> >
> >>   - HTML only message with no text
> >>   - Outlook-ish headers, but not all of them (indicates someone trying
> >>     to look like Outlook ... incorrectly)
> >
> > These two are perfectly legal to have. (But I, personally, wouldn't use
> > a webmail generating html-only mails, and would complain if I got
> > regularly sent such messages. But this is just a matter of taste).
>
> It may be legal, but non-conformance to email RFCs is only one type of
> spam indicator (and some RFC-type rules don't work well).  Anyway, SA is
> not an email RFC validator.  It's a spam detector.  If we only used
> header and other formatting rules for invalid RFC conformance, SA would
> be a lot less effective.

I do know how spamassassin works and what it is used for.

What I meant was: an incorrect Date: header is something that should be
fixed. HTML-only mail and not-outlookish-enough headers are not
something that UebiMiau needs to fix, it's just the characteristics of a
regular MUA, so it's spamassassin's fault for labeling legitimate
messages with these characteristics as spam. In this particular case,
it's even very easy: sa can compensate for UMs 'problems' as UM
generates an X-Mailer header, so sa doesn't need to lower any scores
that do indeed label help recognising spam in most cases.

cheers
-- vbi



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