While the footer may be stripped out of replies, you can't tell me that 
you're never seeing this at the bottom of your message:

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Rob McMillin wrote:

> Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 07:40:58AM -0700, Rob McMillin wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Okay, I'm at wit's end. How do I unsubscribe? There aren't any 
> >>
> >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >your password is mailed to you monthly as a reminder.  but if you goto
> >the URL at the bottom, you can put in your email address and you'll be
> >led to a screen where you can have your password mailed to you, and then
> >you can unsubscribe from there as well (once you get the password.)
> >
> >  
> >
> There is no URL at the bottom. I don't know what you guys are seeing, 
> but there is no unsub information at the footer of each message on this 
> list. This is why I'm going nuts:
> 
> - No URL or unsub info at the end of each e-mail.
> - No unsub info on the website.
> - Unsub info buried in each message header -- fine. But I need a password.
> - There's no indication on the admin page as to how I could get my 
> password if I had lost it.
> 
> I *know* I'm not an idiot or a luser. This info just needs better 
> presentation, that's all.
> 
> 



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