What's really funny is how SA has been tagging McAfee's bulk mailing
about their SpamKiller product as Spam.  "Tired of spam? Get the email
you want and nothing else. McAfee.com SpamKiller stops spam cold!"

Geez...  Spam everybody with messages about stopping spam.  Now there's
a lesson that hasn't been learned. Or maybe they don't consider their
bulk advertising as Spam.


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 5:36 PM
To: Bart Schaefer
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Brightmail



EarthLink employs Brightmail too, but they have not purchased the virus
filtering package from them yet. Their spam filtering is ok-but I would
expect it to be better for as much as EarthLink pays for the service-and
considering that Brightmail deploys honeypots for every network they
have as a client (all of which feed their spam filters on a global
basis), it's often suprising to see some of the spammy garbage they
miss. The need for effective virus filtering for EarthLink is very
evident though--the virus spewage from them is awful. They were using a
homespun spam filtering service (inherited from the now-borg'd
Mindspring) that allowed them greater control over the rulesets and thus
enabled some control over some viruses. But EarthLink suffers from that
perennial corporate anxiety of "there's no way something could work
*that* well if we're not paying millions of dollars for it"--thus
in-house projects or open source developments like spamassassin -are
sadly never really considered as a viable filtering option.


On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Bart Schaefer wrote:

> My DSL ISP (aka "the phone company") now offers Brightmail-based spam 
> filtering.  It caught 8 of the 12 spam messages I've received since it

> was activated (SA caught all 4 of the rest, plus an Outpost.com mailer

> that scored 14.5 -- I'd add them to my whitelist but I'm too 
> interested in seeing what score they're going to rack up next).  
> Unfortunately I got nine copies of one of those Brightmail missed, so 
> on pure volume it's batting less than 50%.
> 
> The ISP advertises their "Spam Detector" as protecting you against 
> viruses, too, but it's zero-for-four on stopping those, so far.
> 
> 
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