I think you have not totaly understood what SA does or how it does it. The
idea that you can just sample the mail and tell if it is spam is not a
design goal of SpamAssassin. SA was designed to work on an entire
message.... as far as I can tell any how. If I'm wrong here I'm sure someone
will correct me.
Basicly I think you need to look at the whole body of the message without
downloading it. There are four ways I can see of doing this...

1) If you can access your mail boxs using IMAP you could write a
SpamAssassin IMAP robot. The robot would check your mail and delete any
spam. Problem being that you need a external server to host the robot on.
Talk to your ISP

2) Use a pay service like SpamCop. There is talk of a SpamAssassin service
but nothing is there yet.

3) Change you setup. Go to a different ISP/Hosting company (With better Spam
protection), get a cable modem, buy and host a dedicated server etc

4) Write a cut down version of SA that just works on headers. And TOPs of
messages. It would not be as accurate but it might cut down on the ammount
you have to download.

        Nick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Sundial Services International, Inc.
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:44 AM
> To: Rob McMillin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Using SpamAssassin if you don't own the mail
> server ?
>
>
> Gentlebeings... you are all on high-speed links and you're
> thinking "set up
> your own POP server..."  As though that were no problem.
>
> And no, it's not that I don't know just how to do just that.  But my
> particular circumstances preclude that approach.  In effect I
> need to (doing
> the entire job non-root from an ordinary user account) periodically query
> the mail on a server ... run it through filtering but also
> cross-comparison
> ... and delete the mail I don't want to log on [think TELEPHONE DIALUP,
> think POOR LINES] and laboriously retrieve.
>
> And I really -do- need to do it _that _way.
>
>
>
>
> At 07:26 AM 4/3/02 -0800, Rob McMillin wrote:
> >Sundial Services International, Inc. wrote:
> >
> >>Here's my problem.  We use an external ISP to handle our mail,
> and of course
> >>we are getting pummeled with spam so fast that the mailbox can fill up
> >>within hours.  We use a different ISP to handle the web-site
> and can set up
> >>programs on that.
> >>
> >>What I want to do, unless it has already been done, is to
> construct a Perl
> >>script that can then be run periodically as a cron-job.  What
> this script
> >>would do is to interrogate each of the mailboxes we use,
> determine what's
> >>spam among them, and delete those messages so that only they
> come down the
> >>line when we download mail.
> >>
> >Ha! Fancy you should mention it. I have a friend who is in a very
> >similar situation. He has a publically visible mail address that he
> >*cannot* get rid of -- it's his business mail, and has been visible on
> >his site since he opened shop over five years ago. It's hosted at the
> >mailserver of the company that bought his business. He gets 100+ spams
> >to this address daily. What you want is to set up a separate server with
> >its own POP3 server, and use fetchmail with the following ~/.fetchmailrc
> >
> >poll <pop3_servername> protocol pop3 username <username> password <pwd>
> >mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"
> >
> >for each affected account, assuming you use POP3 to pick up your mail.
> >Then, follow the usual installation/delivery instructions for
> >SpamAssassin, and change all your mail clients to point to the new mail
> >server for delivery. It's not quite what you're asking for, because it
> >sounds like you're using IMAP for delivery, but I think it's the best
> >you can do under the circumstances.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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