Hi Pine, Totally fair question. IANAL either, but we had the same thought and had multiple conversations with the Legal team about this, so we agree with the line of inquiry.
As it stands, WMF has been talking to CC about advocacy to platforms to improve the ability to not only share but reuse CC content on the major social platforms. Unfortunately it's the assessment of the CC and WMF teams that we're extremely unlikely we're see a change in FB's TOU anytime soon. I don't have the exact reasons in front of me, so I'd suggest asking Stephen if you're interested in the specifics, but if I recall correctly it's a combination of considerations around FB's 'right' to use images uploaded to their platform plus liability considerations around reuse. For the time being, we're stuck asking for permissions on a case-by-case basis from community. And while it's not ideal, between not sharing and sharing, I come down on the side of sharing - we have passionate social followers, and these amazing images are another means and opportunity to engage them in the full scope of free knowledge/culture. Katherine On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > IANAL but instead could the WMF legal folks contact Facebook to ask them > to make their terms compatible with CC-BY-SA and CC-BY licenses? I would > rather have FB change then ask our users to change permissions. FB would > gain commercially from the views of > WM content on their site, meaning that FB has a commercial incentive to > change that WMF Legal could mention when discussing the situation with FB. > > Pine > On Oct 16, 2015 12:25 AM, "Katherine Maher" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Funny you mention that Tilman. >> >> I was wondering last night if it might be possible to talk to the >> organizers of WLM/WLE about making that part of the finalist process for >> next year. So much more visibility for the winners! >> >> mobile. >> On Oct 16, 2015 3:08 AM, "Tilman Bayer" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As an aside, the organizers of another contest told me they explicitly >>> request permission from all contestants to upload their submissions to >>> Facebook, in order to determine winners by voting via "Likes" in FB >>> photo albums: >>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/06/02/wiki-tour-chile-photo-contest/ >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jeff Elder <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > I would really like to post some of the photos on social. Can we get >>> > permission from the photographers -- i.e., are the organizers in touch >>> with >>> > them? I don't see any of the photos in the public domain, which is >>> what we >>> > need unless we have permission. >>> > >>> > Jeff Elder >>> > Digital communications manager >>> > Wikimedia Foundation >>> > 704-650-4130 >>> > @jeffelder >>> > @wikipedia >>> > The Wikimedia blog >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ed Erhart <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> We've just published "See the stunning winning photographs from Wiki >>> Loves >>> >> Earth 2015" to the blog: >>> >> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/15/wiki-loves-earth-winners/ >>> >> >>> >> Thanks to Vira for the post. >>> >> >>> >> Proposed social media messages: >>> >> >>> >> The top five images come from three continents and five countries. >>> >> You can't miss <insert favorite image here>. >>> >> Have you ever seen a bee being born? >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Ed Erhart >>> >> Editorial Associate >>> >> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Social-media mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Social-media mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tilman Bayer >>> Senior Analyst >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> IRC (Freenode): HaeB >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > -- Katherine Maher Chief Communications Officer Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105 +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 +1 (415) 712 4873 [email protected]
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