See http://www.kids4research.org/info_pages/animals.htm#Dogs%20in%20research
--------------------------------------- This should put the issue to rest, since it is from researchers who use dogs for testing: http://www.fbresearch.org/education/fact-vs-myth.htm There is an essential need for canines in the study of lung and heart disease as their cardiovascular and respiratory systems closely match those of humans. ------------------------------------------ I don't think it could be made more clear than that. Marshall [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 18/08/2005 17:20:41 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > your compariso is inept and not germane. > we are talking about particles going through lung tissue or not... > but you have all clearly evaded this issue to concentrate on dogs and cars > and transplants. > gracefully concede i was right and you were wrong. > << Subj: RE: CS>Silver particles in the lungs/reply2 > Date: 18/08/2005 17:20:41 GMT Daylight Time > From: [email protected] (Ernie Patai) > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A> > To: [email protected] > > > > Hi, > > I would like to add to this "conversation" re: the comparison of human > lungs to dog lungs; Although, I know very little about the structure of > "dogs" lungs. We should agree that a dog is a mammal and because he is > warm blooded creature would process oxygen in a "similar" manner as > humans, Regardless of whether he pants or not. We all remember science > class, back in the day asking us what characteristics make up a mammal > right? With this being said; > I would have to agree with Ode. His explanation seems to be the most > open minded. The lung of a dog may be physically different, and based on > its genetic make-up in fact may not work in a human body. Take a car for > example. > (this may be a crude one in comparison) but if you were too take a > "motor" from a very small car, And transferred it into a full sized > Cadillac. One would still have a running motor but probably wouldn't be > very successful in moving the caddy only because of the power to weight > ratio. Eventually pushing the motor to move this car would result in > fatigue and it would eventually quit or seize. Both cars have internal > combustion engines and work off the same operating principle. Even > though it can be modified to fit doesn't mean it will be successful in > creating inertia. Both need air and gasoline to produce combustion = > power. > However, we are speaking of organic material here. But still keeping in > mind > the principle of the lung in a land mammal. > > Regards, > > E > > > > > > > > > > > > > look you are spoiling my victory. > > dogs are not the same as humans.and their lungs > are biologically different from humans. > i can prove this. > if you tried to transplant a dog lung to a human it would kill the > human. > dog are not the same as humans. > you are confused by the fact that humans keep dogs as pets and you think > > therefore dogs are the same as humans. > this fuzzy emotionalism on your part is making you look like someone who > is a > creationist. > > Ode wrote: > > Saying that a dogs lungs are different because dogs have to > pant..while > people only 'can' pant to the same effect, therefore particulates take > an > entirely different route..is like saying that people can't walk > because > they don't have enough feet. > While that might be a sort of sideways 'truth' from a dogs point of > view, > it's only because dogs don't know much about walking on two feet...and > that's not because they 'can't' walk on two feet...most of them just > never > looked into doing it, those that have don't do it very well and bark > out > silly arguements against it. [perhaps citing the fact that people who > do > that tend to fall over more than dogs...those stupid people] > > __________________________________ > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <[email protected]> > Received: from rly-xn04.mx.aol.com (rly-xn04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.117]) > by air-xn02.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXN24-6414304b54ab1; > Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:20:40 -0400 > Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (ultra5.eskimo.com [204.122.16.68]) by > rly-xn04.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN41-6414304b54ab1; > Thu, > 18 Aug 2005 12:20:28 -0400 > Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smart...@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7IGJYH2013606; > Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:19:50 -0700 > Received: (from smart...@localhost) > by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id j7IGJXmw013599; > Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:19:33 -0700 > Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:19:33 -0700 > X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to > [email protected] using -f > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > X-Originating-IP: [70.49.177.122] > X-Originating-Email: [[email protected]] > From: "Ernie Patai" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: CS>Silver particles in the lungs/reply2 > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:19:08 -0400 > Message-ID: <001101c5a410$90cccca0$657ba...@ernie> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 > In-reply-to: <[email protected]> > Importance: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2005 16:19:12.0101 (UTC) > FILETIME=[91B66950:01C5A410] > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Resent-From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/84445 > X-Loop: [email protected] > List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > X-AOL-IP: 204.122.16.68 > X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:497792120:15032385 > X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 > > >>
