<whispers> Shhh! Real soon now, Marshall will finish catching up on his mail and realize that Veganexus isn't here any more.
<grin> Mike D. > See > http://www.kids4research.org/info_pages/animals.htm#Dogs%20in%20research > > --------------------------------------- > This should put the issue to rest, since it is from researchers who use > dogs for testing: > > http://www.fbresearch.org/education/fact-vs-myth.htm > > There is an essential need for canines in the study of lung and heart > disease as their cardiovascular and respiratory systems closely match > those of humans. ------------------------------------------ > > I don't think it could be made more clear than that. > > Marshall > > [email protected] wrote: > > > In a message dated 18/08/2005 17:20:41 GMT Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > your compariso is inept and not germane. > > we are talking about particles going through lung tissue or not... but > > you have all clearly evaded this issue to concentrate on dogs and cars > > and transplants. gracefully concede i was right and you were wrong. << > > Subj: RE: CS>Silver particles in the lungs/reply2 > > Date: 18/08/2005 17:20:41 GMT Daylight Time > > From: [email protected] (Ernie Patai) > > Reply-to: <A > > HREF="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A> To: > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to add to this "conversation" re: the comparison of > > human lungs to dog lungs; Although, I know very little about the > > structure of "dogs" lungs. We should agree that a dog is a mammal and > > because he is warm blooded creature would process oxygen in a > > "similar" manner as humans, Regardless of whether he pants or not. We > > all remember science class, back in the day asking us what > > characteristics make up a mammal right? With this being said; I would > > have to agree with Ode. His explanation seems to be the most open > > minded. The lung of a dog may be physically different, and based on > > its genetic make-up in fact may not work in a human body. Take a car > > for example. (this may be a crude one in comparison) but if you were > > too take a "motor" from a very small car, And transferred it into a > > full sized Cadillac. One would still have a running motor but > > probably wouldn't be very successful in moving the caddy only because > > of the power to weight ratio. Eventually pushing the motor to move > > this car would result in fatigue and it would eventually quit or > > seize. Both cars have internal combustion engines and work off the > > same operating principle. Even though it can be modified to fit > > doesn't mean it will be successful in creating inertia. Both need air > > and gasoline to produce combustion = power. However, we are speaking > > of organic material here. But still keeping in mind the principle of > > the lung in a land mammal. > > > > Regards, > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look you are spoiling my victory. > > > > dogs are not the same as humans.and their lungs > > are biologically different from humans. > > i can prove this. > > if you tried to transplant a dog lung to a human it would kill the > > human. dog are not the same as humans. you are confused by the fact > > that humans keep dogs as pets and you think > > > > therefore dogs are the same as humans. > > this fuzzy emotionalism on your part is making you look like someone > > who is a creationist. > > > > Ode wrote: > > > > Saying that a dogs lungs are different because dogs have to > > pant..while > > people only 'can' pant to the same effect, therefore particulates > > take an entirely different route..is like saying that people can't > > walk because they don't have enough feet. > > While that might be a sort of sideways 'truth' from a dogs point of > > view, > > it's only because dogs don't know much about walking on two > > feet...and that's not because they 'can't' walk on two feet...most > > of them just never looked into doing it, those that have don't do it > > very well and bark out silly arguements against it. [perhaps citing > > the fact that people who do that tend to fall over more than > > dogs...those stupid people] > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver List archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > > Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from > > rly-xn04.mx.aol.com (rly-xn04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.117]) > > by air-xn02.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id > > MAILINXN24-6414304b54ab1; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:20:40 -0400 > > Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (ultra5.eskimo.com [204.122.16.68]) > > by > > rly-xn04.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id > > MAILRELAYINXN41-6414304b54ab1; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:20:28 -0400 > > Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:smart...@localhost > > [127.0.0.1]) > > by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7IGJYH2013606; > > Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:19:50 -0700 > > Received: (from smart...@localhost) > > by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id j7IGJXmw013599; > > Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:19:33 -0700 > > Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:19:33 -0700 > > X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to > > [email protected] using -f > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > X-Originating-IP: [70.49.177.122] > > X-Originating-Email: [[email protected]] > > From: "Ernie Patai" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: CS>Silver particles in the lungs/reply2 > > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:19:08 -0400 > > Message-ID: <001101c5a410$90cccca0$657ba...@ernie> > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="us-ascii" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 > > In-reply-to: <[email protected]> > > Importance: Normal > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2005 16:19:12.0101 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[91B66950:01C5A410] > > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/84445 > > X-Loop: [email protected] > > List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> > > List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> > > List-Subscribe: > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> > > List-Unsubscribe: > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > X-AOL-IP: 204.122.16.68 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:497792120:15032385 > > X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 > > > > >> > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [[email protected] ] [Speaking only for myself... ]
