None of us are saying that EIS does not work.  Most of the discussion is
on the process by which it works, gets into the blood, what form it take
when it gets there and so forth. No matter what the consensus on these
points, the fact is, IT DOES WORK, and has essentually no downside or
side effects. So unless you are concerned with the more esoteric topic,
just ignore the discussion.

As far as the result of the discussions, in some places it may be that
we will agree to disagree.

Marshall

[email protected] wrote:

>  In a message dated 3/28/2005 8:04:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>      It seems to have been a fruitful discussion, but we need to
>      be
>      sensitive to the fact that newcomers are not going to be
>      able to get
>      very much from such detailed information. If the topic
>      continued much
>      longer we'd start to lose people from confusion and boredom.
>
> Thanks Mike,Some of us may have only an 8th grade education. It's hard
> to follow the wisdom and experience of those that have had the
> privilege to go to schools of higher learning.Their language is too
> far above the rest of us. (And they are entitled to their ranks), but
> PLEASE let the rest of us know what is the results of all these
> 'arguments' in PLAIN TERMS.We have invested considerable time and
> efforts to try to utilize what we thought was a viable product to
> combat most of our dilemmas. For the rest of us, it IS confusing to
> try to understand what they are saying.So, do I throw out my CS/IES
> with my generator and go on to something else?Or maybe get a jug of
> good Vodka to sip on and forget it all.....................I'm
> discouraged,Thom