Re: CS>Time for closing arguments, perhaps?
From: cking001
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:42:20
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79121.html

  > No Mike,  I'm not into manufacturing (as in making more  than one,
  > or a  commercial venture). The term "lethal  voltages"  is grossly
  > overused, at least in this instance.

  > If you  have a microwave oven, a TV, or even a  bedside  lamp, you
  > are already  harboring  "lethal  voltage"  devices  in  your home.
  > Common sense  is  always a requirement, and is  not  the exclusive
  > providence of engineers.

  > This particular instance of hacking a microwave gives you a device
  > that has  a  power interlocked door and a  programable  timer. Bob
  > Burger was getting kinda excited about this method  after starting
  > to investigate it. "Low Quality" indeed!

  > It's "safer" than the neon transformer I was using prior to this.

  > Of course, as usual, YMMV.

  > I'm always  interested in your analysis' Mike but they  still have
  > to pass the grain of salt test.

  > Oh, BTW,  on  your mold saga, I recently tried to  tackle  a moldy
  > spot on  a wall to clean it off. Tried bleach and  other cleansers
  > without much  progress before I thought of TV's Oxyplus  as touted
  > by Billy  Mays. I made a pasty concoction with  hottish  water and
  > smeared it on the patch. Let it dry overnight. Darned if it didn't
  > take it right off! I'm impressed!

  > Chuck

  Chuck, thank you for your safety tips on high voltage. Yes,  TV sets
  and bedside lamps harbor high voltages. But you don't pour  water in
  them.

  I spent 8 years in the military working on high  power transmitters.
  They drummed into us constantly to never trust the interlocks. Don't
  even give high voltage a chance. It will kill you.

  I have  been  a  ham  since   1955,   and  have  built  my  share of
  transmitters. You gain a very healthy respect for high  voltage when
  you hit  the plate cap on a 6146, or grab a power  supply  using 6L6
  regulators where someone substituted metal tubes, and  the designers
  used pin  1  as  a tie point for 900V. Pin 1 on  a  6L6  is normally
  vacant, but the metal version connects it to the metal case.

  I fix microwave ovens for friends. You are right - it has interlocks
  that are supposed to blow the fuse if the interlocks fail. I  have a
  box full  of  microswitches taken from failed ovens.  You  would not
  believe how astonished you are when the safety systems fail  and the
  microwave turns on when you open the door. It will fry your eyes  in
  seconds.

  The thing  about being an engineer is you get to see a  much broader
  range of experiences. My decision to stay away from  microwave ovens
  for my personal brewing is based on that experience. What you  do is
  your choice. But please don't trust the interlocks.

  Buy more  silver  and use it to reduce the voltage  needed  to drive
  your brew.  This  will reduce the current  density  and  give better
  quality. Quality  in  my book is the highest  possible  ion content,
  with the  minimum  reduction as oxides are  produced  after  you are
  finished brewing.

  I now  make cs with concentration up to 48uS, but it decays  down to
  40us or less in a short time. I switched to using 18uS cs to seed my
  generator, and  now  get 34.8uS that is perfectly clear  and  has no
  decay at all.

  But in my book, the highest quality award goes to Trem  Williams. He
  showed how  his SG7 will make 45uS that is perfectly  clear  and has
  little or  no  decay.  My hat's off to him,  and  I  am  dropping my
  beautifully-conceived double chamber system and looking for a way to
  get vigorous stirring.

  My experience  with cs is the higher the ion content, the  better it
  works. When  I got Shingles, the plain 3 nines worked  well  to stop
  it.

  But it  came  back  a while later. I  got  painful  open  sores that
  wouldn't heal. The 3 nines stuff had no effect.

  I experimented and found going to "U" shaped electrodes and reducing
  the current density just about doubled the ion content. When I tried
  the first  brew,  I only took 1 oz, and spit  it  out  after several
  minutes. Three days later, the Shingles blisters fell off. They have
  not returned.

  As you  know, I have been suffering the effects of  mold  toxins for
  years. The 20us cs had no effect.

  I did  some  more experimenting and found a way  to  get  higher ion
  concentration. A description is in the archives.

  I took  my  first dose on March 4.  The  symptoms  gradually started
  disappearing, and now I am able to function like a human  being once
  more, instead  of  spending days in bed. I am  putting  the  list of
  doses and times at the end. You can see the PWT readings drop as the
  oxides form. The last batch has only two entries, but the reading is
  the same as when it was brewed. So it is possible to make high-ionic
  cs without having it decay, but Trems' SG7 system works much better.

  So thanks  for your friendly advice on mold - I  think  I've finally
  found the solution!

Mike Monett

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  Here's the dose and time list:

  Method: Pour  50ml  in  3 oz shot glass and  hold  in  mouth  for 10
  minutes then swallow.

  50 ml = 1.69070113 US fluid ounces

  Fri Mar 04, 2005, 07:54:49 pm 44.9uS
  Sat Mar 05, 2005, 12:29:08 pm 42.5uS
  Sat Mar 05, 2005, 11:03:48 pm 42.3uS
  Sun Mar 06, 2005, 11:38:55 am 40.0uS
  - Small headache. Will see if it goes away. It did, sort of.
  Sun Mar 06, 2005, 04:25:26 pm 41.9uS
  Mon Mar 07, 2005, 01:08:09 pm 40.0uS
  Tue Mar 08, 2005, 11:58:48 am 27.2uS <- new brew
  Wed Mar 09, 2005, 12:47:25 am 26.5uS
  Wed Mar 09, 2005, 07:35:44 am 24.5uS
  Wed Mar 09, 2005, 08:14:58 pm 25.5uS
  Wed Mar 09, 2005, 11:12:45 pm 25.2uS
  Thu Mar 10, 2005, 03:05:24 am 45.2uS <- new brew
  Thu Mar 10, 2005, 10:47:44 am 42.2uS
  Fri Mar 11, 2005, 04:58:48 am 41.4uS Headache

  Fri Mar 11, 2005, 07:52:10 am
  It took about 3 hrs, but headache is reduced.

  Sat Mar 12, 2005, 09:58:49 am 37.3uS <- new brew. Big headache
  Sat Mar 12, 2005, 04:08:48 pm 39.0uS
  Sat Mar 12, 2005, 09:36:47 pm 37.4uS <- headache. See if it stops
  Missed one
  Mon Mar 14, 2005, 12:24:55 am 31.1uS
  Mon Mar 14, 2005, 03:32:50 am 31.6uS
  Mon Mar 14, 2005, 11:01:48 am 27.5uS <- cold in room
  Mon Mar 14, 2005, 04:28:30 pm 27.2uS <- a bit warmer
  Tue Mar 15, 2005, 06:27:06 am 33.2uS <- new batch
  Tue Mar 15, 2005, 05:20:19 pm 34.5uS
  Wed Mar 16, 2005, 12:36:09 am 32.3uS
  Wed Mar 16, 2005, 01:50:44 pm 29.1uS
  Wed Mar 16, 2005, 06:53:17 pm 39.7uS <- new batch
  Thu Mar 17, 2005, 02:23:33 am 38.5uS
  Thu Mar 17, 2005, 03:14:50 pm 35.4uS
  Fri Mar 18, 2005, 09:23:14 am 35.0uS
  Fri Mar 18, 2005, 08:59:13 pm 35.2uS
  Sat Mar 19, 2005, 07:21:44 am 35.6uS
  Sat Mar 19, 2005, 02:16:51 pm 34.7uS
  Sun Mar 20, 2005, 03:29:33 am 32.0uS <- new batch
  Sun Mar 20, 2005, 12:18:19 pm 28.8uS
  Mon Mar 21, 2005, 12:21:37 pm 29.1uS
  Mon Mar 21, 2005, 08:19:44 pm 46.4uS <- new batch
  Tue Mar 22, 2005, 10:07:25 am 41.5uS
  Wed Mar 23, 2005, 11:05:30 am 40.5uS
  Thu Mar 24, 2005, 12:45:12 am 39.0uS
  Thu Mar 24, 2005, 02:30:59 pm 36.4uS
  Fri Mar 25, 2005, 03:49:29 am 37.5uS
  Fri Mar 25, 2005, 06:48:09 am 37.5uS
  Fri Mar 25, 2005, 07:50:43 pm 29.5uS <- leftover old stuff
  Sat Mar 26, 2005, 01:29:50 am 30.3uS
  Sat Mar 26, 2005, 12:50:01 pm 29.6uS <- last of this batch
  Mon Mar 28, 2005, 04:03:21 am 34.8uS <- new batch
  Tue Mar 29, 2005, 03:26:23 pm 34.7uS


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