That's a shame -- I like the smell of new vinyl.  New cars too!!  ;-)
MA



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From: John E. Stevens <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 2:58:21 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Now: Mold, Was: Pinging Mike

There are poisons in the vinyl, too, that may be as dangerous as the mold.  
That smell you get from purchasing a new vinyl shower curtain is dangerous to 
your health.  Please check that out, too.

John


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Mike Monett <[email protected]> wrote:

 > So, Mike.  I  live  in the south -  where  heat  and  moisture are
> > common, especially  in the summer. At least a  couple  times every
> > summer, I find a mold patch or two on my shower curtain,  where it
> > folds together  when  the  shower is not in use.  I  keep  a spray
> > bottle of bleach right in the shower area so I can spray  these as
> > soon as  I  spot them, then I rinse the area with  clean  water as
> > soon as  the mold disappears from the shower  curtain.  The shower
> > curtain, incidentally,  is vinyl. Are you saying that I when  I do
> > this, I haven't killed the mold? That the spores remain  alive? If
> > so, then where are they? MA
>
> Hi MaryAnn,
>
> Boy, this  is  the perfect example of how  the  list  archives would
> help. I  posted  a detailed analysis of mold  growth  long  ago, and
> spent considerable time finding the links with the best  pictures to
> illustrate the  various components. All I would have to  do  is find
> the post,  which is easy in google or mail-archive, check  the links
> to make  sure they are still valid, and post the link  with  a brief
> message. It is starting to look like that might be possible again..
>
> In the  meantime,  I also keep a squeeze bottle with  bleach  in the
> shower, and spray it on the mold when it starts becoming noticeable.
>
> I don't bother rinsing, but let the bleach dry into  crystals. These
> wash away  the  next time I take a shower. But  like  you,  the mold
> always comes back.
>
> There are  three  components  to mold:  the  invisible  spores which
> propagate the  plant,  the  visible part that  you  can  see  on the
> surface, and a hidden part called the hyphae, which you cannot see.
>
> The hyphae  is buried in whatever the mold is growing  on,  like the
> root of a tree.
>
> Bleach will  kill the visible part on the surface, but as  far  as I
> can tell,  it has no effect on the spores. The channels made  by the
> hyphae are  too small for bleach to penetrate, so it can't  kill the
> root portion.
>
> So when  you  apply bleach to a surface, you only  kill  the visible
> part.
>
> The spores continue to germinate, and the hyphae start  growing back
> immediately.
>
> In addition,  new  spores continually arrive. If they  are  the same
> kind of  mold,  they  will probably start  growing.  If  they  are a
> different kind,  they  may not survive the  toxins  produced  by the
> existing mold.  This  is  the effect that led  to  the  discovery of
> penicillin by Fleming in 1928, as well as Tyndall in  1875, Duchesne
> in 1897, and Picado between 1915 and 1927.
>
> The mold coats the spores with toxins to destroy any competition. We
> are just the collateral damage in their biological warfare..
>
> However, I  am  excited  by the recent post by  Pat  and  my private
> emailer concerning  chlorine  dioxide.  If  this  works  as  well to
> inhibit mold  as  it  does for libraries, it  might  be  the perfect
> solution for people with severe mold allergies.
>
> But it  would  have to be a multiple approach.  Put  the  packets in
> various rooms  to kill the spores, and make a closet  into  a sealed
> chamber to  hang  bedding.   Hopefully   the  chlorine  dioxide will
> penetrate the fabric and kill the spores. I'm trying to  locate some
> right now, and will report the results to the list.
>
> More news later,
>
> Mike M.
>
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