Hello Mike,

In your eagerness to play, keep in mind that chlorine dioxide is a
respiratory irritant at very low concentrations.  The general rule is that
if you can detect the odor you are at, or above, the 8 hour workplace limit.
If you happen to get too much into a room, just open it up and let it air
out for a few minutes.  Chlorine dioxide dissipates almost immediately.

In addition to the packets for odor control in the air, a solution may also
be needed in difficult situations.  This solution is made from sodium
chlorite.  When you spray the solution on a surface, it acts like a time
release of chlorine dioxide without the odor.

Tom




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Monett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Now: Mold, Was: Pinging Mike


>   > So, Mike.  I  live  in the south -  where  heat  and  moisture are
>   > common, especially  in the summer. At least a  couple  times every
>   > summer, I find a mold patch or two on my shower curtain,  where it
>   > folds together  when  the  shower is not in use.  I  keep  a spray
>   > bottle of bleach right in the shower area so I can spray  these as
>   > soon as  I  spot them, then I rinse the area with  clean  water as
>   > soon as  the mold disappears from the shower  curtain.  The shower
>   > curtain, incidentally,  is vinyl. Are you saying that I when  I do
>   > this, I haven't killed the mold? That the spores remain  alive? If
>   > so, then where are they? MA
>
>   Hi MaryAnn,
>
>   Boy, this  is  the perfect example of how  the  list  archives would
>   help. I  posted  a detailed analysis of mold  growth  long  ago, and
>   spent considerable time finding the links with the best  pictures to
>   illustrate the  various components. All I would have to  do  is find
>   the post,  which is easy in google or mail-archive, check  the links
>   to make  sure they are still valid, and post the link  with  a brief
>   message. It is starting to look like that might be possible again.
>
>   In the  meantime,  I also keep a squeeze bottle with  bleach  in the
>   shower, and spray it on the mold when it starts becoming noticeable.
>
>   I don't bother rinsing, but let the bleach dry into  crystals. These
>   wash away  the  next time I take a shower. But  like  you,  the mold
>   always comes back.
>
>   There are  three  components  to mold:  the  invisible  spores which
>   propagate the  plant,  the  visible part that  you  can  see  on the
>   surface, and a hidden part called the hyphae, which you cannot see.
>
>   The hyphae  is buried in whatever the mold is growing  on,  like the
>   root of a tree.
>
>   Bleach will  kill the visible part on the surface, but as  far  as I
>   can tell,  it has no effect on the spores. The channels made  by the
>   hyphae are  too small for bleach to penetrate, so it can't  kill the
>   root portion.
>
>   So when  you  apply bleach to a surface, you only  kill  the visible
>   part.
>
>   The spores continue to germinate, and the hyphae start  growing back
>   immediately.
>
>   In addition,  new  spores continually arrive. If they  are  the same
>   kind of  mold,  they  will probably start  growing.  If  they  are a
>   different kind,  they  may not survive the  toxins  produced  by the
>   existing mold.  This  is  the effect that led  to  the  discovery of
>   penicillin by Fleming in 1928, as well as Tyndall in  1875, Duchesne
>   in 1897, and Picado between 1915 and 1927.
>
>   The mold coats the spores with toxins to destroy any competition. We
>   are just the collateral damage in their biological warfare.
>
>   However, I  am  excited  by the recent post by  Pat  and  my private
>   emailer concerning  chlorine  dioxide.  If  this  works  as  well to
>   inhibit mold  as  it  does for libraries, it  might  be  the perfect
>   solution for people with severe mold allergies.
>
>   But it  would  have to be a multiple approach.  Put  the  packets in
>   various rooms  to kill the spores, and make a closet  into  a sealed
>   chamber to  hang  bedding.   Hopefully   the  chlorine  dioxide will
>   penetrate the fabric and kill the spores. I'm trying to  locate some
>   right now, and will report the results to the list.
>
>   More news later,
>
>   Mike M.
>
>
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