You wrote, "I can't see Lemon balm, fish oil, bromelain, curcumin, magnesium, or SAMe, helping with surgical pain and stress."
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss some of these supplements. Bromelain is an *exceptionally* good anti-inflammatory if taken at the right dose. There are reports of it reducing healing time by more than half. Fish oil normalizes the balance of fats, being very good for health in general, reduces inflammation, but may thin the blood which may or may not be desirable in this situation. Magnesium may normalize electrolyte imbalance, prevent cramps, and soften tissues. Don't know about the rest... If it is a mechanical issue due to scar tissue, then applying castor oil to the area regularly for a period of time will soften the scar tissue and soften and help the tissue to reorient and repair properly. Dan On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Annie B Smythe<[email protected]> wrote: > I would have suggested L Glutamine, and an adaptogen, any one or more of the > gensing family. > > I can't see Lemon balm, fish oil, bromelain, curcumin, magnesium, or SAMe, > helping with surgical pain and stress. Magnesium can help with muscle spasms > and cramps, that generally crop up for diabetics, because diabetics can be, > and often are deficient in magnesium, which leads to cramps and muscle > spasms at night.. But the weird thing about magnesium is that you have to > have magnesium in your system to absorb more. And magnesium in any form is > poorly absorbed. Another good way to get magnesium in your system is just a > plain old Epsom salt bath:) > > Emu oil applied topically is a superb pain killer/anti inflammatory, and has > the added benefit of carrying other substances such as arnica, or white > willow into the system, or target area, through the skin. It helps reduce > scarring as well. It penetrates all the layers of skin and is a water loving > oil. It doesn't leave an oily sticky residue on the skin either. If there > is oil left on the skin you've applied too much. > > Surgery is a huge stress on the body. > > L Glutamine helps the body recover faster, post surgery, and the adaptogens > help with the stress on the body and emotions. > > Curcumin is a good general anti inflammatory but I wopuldn't use it all by > itself on something as big as knee surgery. And it takes a while for > curcumin to build up in your system, just like Glucosamine, and Chondroiton, > MSM, or St John's Wort, it can take anywhere from three days to three > months. > > I would have suggested arnica, white willow, feverfew, ginger, and > turmeric(circumin), taken together..they inhibit prostoglandins, and arnica > and white willow are found in a lot of topical salve/cream preparations for > pain. > > The Gensing family and licorice together, they stimulate the release of your > own body's natural cortisone from the adrenal system, and protect the > adrenal system from being overstressed at the same time. > > Valerian, Kava Kava and Passionflower together are anti anxiety and relaxing > herbs that can help you sleep. > > Panax notoginseng is a lesser known herb here in the US, it's expensive but > an excellent pain reliever, and has many other benefits. > http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2676859 > > I've used all of these in one combination or another in the past few years. > > St John's Wort is a good anti inflammatory, as well as a mood lifter, but it > can't be used with so many other prescribed drugs that I don't recommend it > often. Because generally people are taking one or more drugs already, and/or > OTC stuff they don't tell you about. And it can make you photosensitive. > Plus it can sometimes take as long to begin showing results as any of the > other psychoactive drugs, so it requires time and patience. > > > Annie > > jessie70 wrote: >> >> Have you tried any ayurvedic herbs? They seem to help when nothing else >> will. Jess >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Pat [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:34 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: CS>Getting weaned off Tramadol >> >> Sheesh, I just took my first 1/2 Tramadol. Absolutely had to have >> something. Quit the oxycodone and hydrocodone a couple weeks ago >> after anxiety and depression, but Aleve and Tylenol just didn't do >> much for the pain I'm still having at night 8 weeks after partial >> knee replacement surgery. I don't take anything during the day >> except my usual 200 mg. Celebrex which I haven't been able to do >> without. I took Ambien to help me sleep four nights and knew that >> couldn't go on, so last night I tried Benadryl which is the sleep >> ingredient in Tylenol PM. It didn't do a thing, even though in >> normal times it knocks me out. I slept two hours in all during >> the night (three more later in the a.m.) Had my checkup today and >> the doctor said everything looked great. He said that I might be >> more sensitive than many, but that it's not a bad thing since the >> more sensitive ones achieve the perfect range of motion that some >> never achieve. I now have great range of motion, but HAVE to get >> some sleep! I've tried all these natural things that are said to >> help and nothing has. t seemed just like an SSRI antidepressent >> and had the same tooth grinding and insomnia-causing traits. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Deborah Gerard <[email protected]> >> *To:* cs <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:04:36 PM >> *Subject:* CS>Getting weaned off Tramadol >> >> Have a friend who wants to get off the drug Tramadol and is >> finding it is very addicting and she is having awful reactions >> stopping the drug...insomia, weird leg cramps and other symptoms >> any and all advice on what and how she should proceed ,without >> taking other drugs, would be awesome from the group, >> thanks much debbie >> >> >> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
