I would have suggested L Glutamine, and an adaptogen, any one or more of
the gensing family.
I can't see Lemon balm, fish oil, bromelain, curcumin, magnesium, or
SAMe, helping with surgical pain and stress. Magnesium can help with
muscle spasms and cramps, that generally crop up for diabetics, because
diabetics can be, and often are deficient in magnesium, which leads to
cramps and muscle spasms at night.. But the weird thing about magnesium
is that you have to have magnesium in your system to absorb more. And
magnesium in any form is poorly absorbed. Another good way to get
magnesium in your system is just a plain old Epsom salt bath:)
Emu oil applied topically is a superb pain killer/anti inflammatory, and
has the added benefit of carrying other substances such as arnica, or
white willow into the system, or target area, through the skin. It helps
reduce scarring as well. It penetrates all the layers of skin and is a
water loving oil. It doesn't leave an oily sticky residue on the skin
either. If there is oil left on the skin you've applied too much.
Surgery is a huge stress on the body.
L Glutamine helps the body recover faster, post surgery, and the
adaptogens help with the stress on the body and emotions.
Curcumin is a good general anti inflammatory but I wopuldn't use it all
by itself on something as big as knee surgery. And it takes a while for
curcumin to build up in your system, just like Glucosamine, and
Chondroiton, MSM, or St John's Wort, it can take anywhere from three
days to three months.
I would have suggested arnica, white willow, feverfew, ginger, and
turmeric(circumin), taken together..they inhibit prostoglandins, and
arnica and white willow are found in a lot of topical salve/cream
preparations for pain.
The Gensing family and licorice together, they stimulate the release of
your own body's natural cortisone from the adrenal system, and protect
the adrenal system from being overstressed at the same time.
Valerian, Kava Kava and Passionflower together are anti anxiety and
relaxing herbs that can help you sleep.
Panax notoginseng is a lesser known herb here in the US, it's expensive
but an excellent pain reliever, and has many other benefits.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2676859
I've used all of these in one combination or another in the past few years.
St John's Wort is a good anti inflammatory, as well as a mood lifter,
but it can't be used with so many other prescribed drugs that I don't
recommend it often. Because generally people are taking one or more
drugs already, and/or OTC stuff they don't tell you about. And it can
make you photosensitive. Plus it can sometimes take as long to begin
showing results as any of the other psychoactive drugs, so it requires
time and patience.
Annie
jessie70 wrote:
Have you tried any ayurvedic herbs? They seem to help when nothing
else will. Jess
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Pat [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:34 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: CS>Getting weaned off Tramadol
Sheesh, I just took my first 1/2 Tramadol. Absolutely had to have
something. Quit the oxycodone and hydrocodone a couple weeks ago
after anxiety and depression, but Aleve and Tylenol just didn't do
much for the pain I'm still having at night 8 weeks after partial
knee replacement surgery. I don't take anything during the day
except my usual 200 mg. Celebrex which I haven't been able to do
without. I took Ambien to help me sleep four nights and knew that
couldn't go on, so last night I tried Benadryl which is the sleep
ingredient in Tylenol PM. It didn't do a thing, even though in
normal times it knocks me out. I slept two hours in all during
the night (three more later in the a.m.) Had my checkup today and
the doctor said everything looked great. He said that I might be
more sensitive than many, but that it's not a bad thing since the
more sensitive ones achieve the perfect range of motion that some
never achieve. I now have great range of motion, but HAVE to get
some sleep! I've tried all these natural things that are said to
help and nothing has. t seemed just like an SSRI antidepressent
and had the same tooth grinding and insomnia-causing traits.
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*From:* Deborah Gerard <[email protected]>
*To:* cs <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:04:36 PM
*Subject:* CS>Getting weaned off Tramadol
Have a friend who wants to get off the drug Tramadol and is
finding it is very addicting and she is having awful reactions
stopping the drug...insomia, weird leg cramps and other symptoms
any and all advice on what and how she should proceed ,without
taking other drugs, would be awesome from the group,
thanks much debbie
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