On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles - I am going to say (jokingly of course) that "You asked for it. This
> is a long and detailed reply. Sorry.

Thanks for the long and detailed reply!

> On Thursday 15 May 2008 5:02:35 am Charles Haynes wrote:

>> >  I believe societies have ways of putting fingers into sensitive places
>> > in a way that judges and governments cannot do.

Let me see if I can accurately summarize what you're saying - please
correct me if I mis-state what you're trying to say.

There are people who are offended by MF Hussain's art who find the
political response to his art to be hypocritical - politicians react
when art offends muslims, but they ignore art offensive to hindus. As
a result those people feel they need to respond directly.

> When you paint a woman having sex with a tiger, it can pass off as art. But
> when you paint such a figure and call it Durga, you are inviting the
> attention of people who want to see Durga as a force that drives evil away,
> and not as a symbol in sexual union with an animal. This might be art, but it
> is controversial art because it pokes at popular belief. It provokes and
> demands criticism.
>
> For a Hindu the abstract concept of a force that protects against evil being
> depicted as a female (mother) form controlling a tiger and fighting what is
> to be feared is itself art. Depicting that artistic concept as a female
> having sex with a tiger is interpreted as an insult to the pure, non
> sexual "mother figure" relationship that people have with Durga. It is as
> vulgar as painting a moustache and beard on the Mona Lisa.

Interesting you would choose that example. I assume you are aware of
Marcel Duchamp's L.H.O.O.Q?

> "Artistic licence" may demand that egregious acts such these must
> be "tolerated" but artists need to understand that their art can invite
> criticism too and artistic licence is not a licence to free them from
> criticism. "Intolerance" is a feeble skirt to hide behind when art is
> being criticized.

Do you see violence as a legitimate form of criticism?

> cartoonist. The only choice that Indian policticians have is to accept that
> Husain's art is offensive. But this is a bad choice, because it puts them on
> the same boat as the people they term "Hindu extremists"

I think MF Hussain's art is offensive. I also like it.

> Hindus are learning that intolerance
> works as a political force.

How do you feel about that?

> It will
> mean being equally forthright and honest to Muslim and Hindu extremists that
> they are bigots.

I agree.


> Thanks for your patience if you got so far.

Thanks for your patience in replying.

-- Charles

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