Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-02 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Kenny wrote: > > I used your script (thanks) but I fail to see which controller > controls which disk... Your white paper shows six luns with the > active state first and then six with the active state second, > however mine all show active state first. > > Yes, I've verified

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-02 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:44, Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fiber channel ... offers a bit more bandwidth than SAS. The bandwidth part of this statement is not accurate. SAS uses wide ports composed of (usually, other widths are possible) four 3 gbit links. Each of these has a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-02 Thread Kenny
Bob, I used your script (thanks) but I fail to see which controller controls which disk... Your white paper shows six luns with the active state first and then six with the active state second, however mine all show active state first. Yes, I've verified that both controllers are up and CAM see

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-02 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Mertol Ozyoney wrote: > That's exactly what I said in a private email. J4200 or J4400 can offer > better price/performance. However the price difference is not as much as you > think. Besides 2540 have a few function that can not be found on J series , > like SAN connectivity,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-02 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
obile +905339310752 Fax +90212335 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Al Hopper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration On Mon,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-01 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Mertol Ozyoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A few quick notes. > > 2540's first 12 drives are extremely fast due to the fact that they have > direct unshared connections. I do not mean that additional disks are slow, I > want to say that first 12 is extremely fast, c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-01 Thread James C. McPherson
Robert Milkowski wrote: > Hello Bob, > > Friday, August 29, 2008, 7:25:14 PM, you wrote: > > BF> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Kyle McDonald wrote: >>> What would one look for to decide what vdev to place each LUN? >>> >>> All mine have the same Current Load Balance value: round robin. > > BF> That is a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-01 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
2:04 PM To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration Personally I'd go for an 11 disk raid-z2, with one hot spare. You loose some capacity, but you've got more than enough for your current needs, and with 1TB disks single parity raid means a l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Bob, Friday, August 29, 2008, 7:25:14 PM, you wrote: BF> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Kyle McDonald wrote: >>> >> What would one look for to decide what vdev to place each LUN? >> >> All mine have the same Current Load Balance value: round robin. BF> That is a good question and I will have to rem

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-31 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008, Ross wrote: > You could split this into two raid-z2 sets if you wanted, that would > have a bit better performance, but if you can cope with the speed of > a single pool for now I'd be tempted to start with that. It's > likely that by Christmas you'll be able to buy flash

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-31 Thread Tim
With the restriping: wouldn't it be as simple as creating a new folder/dataset/whatever on the same pool and doing an rsync to the same pool/new location. This would obviously cause a short downtime to switch over and delete the old dataset, but seems like it should work fine. If you're doubling

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-31 Thread Ross
Personally I'd go for an 11 disk raid-z2, with one hot spare. You loose some capacity, but you've got more than enough for your current needs, and with 1TB disks single parity raid means a lot of time with your data unprotected when one fails. You could split this into two raid-z2 sets if you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Kyle McDonald wrote: >> > What would one look for to decide what vdev to place each LUN? > > All mine have the same Current Load Balance value: round robin. That is a good question and I will have to remind myself of the answer. The "round robin" is good because that means

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > >> If you do use the two raidz2 vdevs, then if you pay attention to how >> MPxIO works, you can balance the load across your two fiber channel >> links for best performance. Each raidz2 vdev can be served (by >> default) by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > > If you do use the two raidz2 vdevs, then if you pay attention to how > MPxIO works, you can balance the load across your two fiber channel > links for best performance. Each raidz2 vdev can be served (by > default) by a differente FC link. As a foll

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Kenny wrote: > > 1) I didn't do raid2 because I didn't want to lose the space. Is > this a bas idea?? Raidz2 is the most reliable vdev configuration other than triple-mirror. The pool is only as strong as its weakest vdev. In private email I suggested using all 12 drives

[zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Kenny
Hello again... Now that I've got my 2540 up and running. I'm considering which configuration is best. I have a proposed config and wanted your opinions and comments on it. Background I have a requirement to host syslog data from approx 30 servers. Currently the data is about 3.5TB in