Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-14 Thread Ross
What are you running there? snv or OpenSolaris? Could you try an OpenSolaris 2009.06 live disc and boot directly from that. Once I was running that build every single hot plug I tried worked flawlessly. I tried for several hours to replicate the problems that caused me to log that bug report

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-14 Thread Aaron Brady
Well, I upgraded to b124, disabling ACPI because of [1], and I get exactly the same behaviour. I've removed the device from the zpool, and tried dd-ing from the device while I remove it; it still hangs all IO on the system until the disk is re-inserted. I'm running the kernel with -v (from diag

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-13 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Aaron Brady wrote: > I did, but as tcook suggests running a later build, I'll try an > image-update (though, 111 > 2008.11, right?) > It should be, yes. b111 was released in April of 2009. --Tim ___ zfs-discuss maili

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-13 Thread Aaron Brady
I did, but as tcook suggests running a later build, I'll try an image-update (though, 111 > 2008.11, right?) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-13 Thread Ross
Hi Tim, that doesn't help in this case - it's a complete lockup apparently caused by driver issues. However, the good news ofr Insom is that the bug is closed because the problem now appears fixed. I tested it and found that it's no longer occuring in OpenSolaris 2008.11 or 2009.06. If you mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-13 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Aaron Brady wrote: > All's gone quiet on this issue, and the bug is closed, but I'm having > exactly the same problem; pulling a disk on this card, under OpenSolaris > 111, is pausing all IO (including, weirdly, network IO), and using the ZFS > utilities (zfs list

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-10-13 Thread Aaron Brady
All's gone quiet on this issue, and the bug is closed, but I'm having exactly the same problem; pulling a disk on this card, under OpenSolaris 111, is pausing all IO (including, weirdly, network IO), and using the ZFS utilities (zfs list, zpool list, zpool status) causes a hang until I replace t

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-02-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Ross Smith wrote: > >> >> As far as I'm concerned, the 7000 series is a new hardware platform, >> > > You are joking right? Have you ever looked at the photos of these "new" > systems or

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-02-12 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Ross Smith wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the 7000 series is a new hardware platform, You are joking right? Have you ever looked at the photos of these "new" systems or compared them to other Sun systems? They are just re-purposed existing systems with a bit of extra

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-02-12 Thread Ross Smith
Heh, yeah, I've thought the same kind of thing in the past. The problem is that the argument doesn't really work for system admins. As far as I'm concerned, the 7000 series is a new hardware platform, with relatively untested drivers, running a software solution that I know is prone to locking up

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-02-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Ross wrote: > This sounds like exactly the kind of problem I've been shouting about for 6 > months or more. I posted a huge thread on availability on these forums > because I had concerns over exactly this kind of hanging. > > ZFS doesn't trust hardware or driver

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-02-12 Thread Ross
This sounds like exactly the kind of problem I've been shouting about for 6 months or more. I posted a huge thread on availability on these forums because I had concerns over exactly this kind of hanging. ZFS doesn't trust hardware or drivers when it comes to your data - everything is checksum

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2009-02-11 Thread Peter Schultze
> Yup, was an absolute nightmare to diagnose on top of everything else. > Definitely doesn't > happen in windows too. I really want somebody to try snv_94 on a Thumper to > see if you > get the same behaviour there, or whether it's unique to Supermicro's Marvell > card. On a Thumper under S1

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-20 Thread Tim
I don't think its just b94, I recall this behavior for as long as I've had the card. I'd also be interested to know if the sun driver team has ever even tested with this card. I realize its probably not a top priority, but it sure would be nice to have it working properly. On 8/20/08, Ross

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-20 Thread James C. McPherson
Ross Smith wrote: > > > Without fail, cfgadm changes the status from "disk" to "sata-port" > when I > > > unplug a device attached to port 6 or 7, but most of the time > unplugging > > > disks 0-5 results in no change in cfgadm, until I also attach disk > 6 or 7. > > > > That does seem inco

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-20 Thread Ross Smith
> > Without fail, cfgadm changes the status from "disk" to "sata-port" when I > > unplug a device attached to port 6 or 7, but most of the time unplugging > > disks 0-5 results in no change in cfgadm, until I also attach disk 6 or 7. > > That does seem inconsistent, or at least, it's not what I'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-20 Thread James C. McPherson
Ross wrote: > lol, I got bored after 13 pages and a whole day of going back through my > notes to pick out the relevant information. > > Besides, I did mention that I was using cfgadm to see what was connected > :-p. If you're really interested, most of my troubleshooting notes have > been posted

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-20 Thread Ross
lol, I got bored after 13 pages and a whole day of going back through my notes to pick out the relevant information. Besides, I did mention that I was using cfgadm to see what was connected :-p. If you're really interested, most of my troubleshooting notes have been posted to the forum, but un

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-20 Thread Brian D. Horn
Well, when you leave out a bunch of relevant information you also leave people guessing! :-) Regardless, is it possibly that all of your testing was done with ZFS and not just the "raw" disk? If so, it is possible that ZFS isn't noticing the hot unplugging of the disk until it tries to access th

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-15 Thread Florin Iucha
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:07:31AM -0500, Tim wrote: > You could always try FreeBSD :) > > > Unfortunately for me, Windows doesn't support ZFS... right now it's > > looking a whole load more stable. Nope: FreeBSD doesn't have proper power management either. florin -- Bruce Schneier expects the

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-15 Thread Ross Smith
Oh god no, I'm already learning three new operating systems, now is not a good time to add a fourth. Ross<-- Windows admin now working with Ubuntu, OpenSolaris and ESX Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:07:31 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-S

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-15 Thread Tim
You could always try FreeBSD :) --Tim On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haven't a clue, but I've just gotten around to installing windows on this > box to test and I can confirm that hot plug works just fine in windows. > > Drives appear and dissappear in device

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-15 Thread Ross
Haven't a clue, but I've just gotten around to installing windows on this box to test and I can confirm that hot plug works just fine in windows. Drives appear and dissappear in device manager the second I unplug the hardware. Any drive, either controller. So far I've done a couple of dozen r

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-14 Thread Tim
I don't have any extra cards lying around and can't really take my server down, so my immediate question would be: Is there any sort of PCI bridge chip on the card? I know in my experience I've seen all sorts of headaches with less than stellar bridge chips. Specifically some of the IBM bridge chi

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-14 Thread Ross
This is the problem when you try to write up a good summary of what you found. I've got pages and pages of notes of all the tests I did here, far more than I could include in that PDF. What makes me think it's driver is that I've done much of what you suggested. I've replicated the exact same

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-13 Thread Brian D. Horn
Looking at what you wrote, you claim that hot plug events on ports 6 and 7 generally work, but other ports are not immediately discovered. Since there is no special code for ports 6 & 7 and no one else has reported this sort of behavior, it would make me think that you have a hardware issue. Possi

Re: [zfs-discuss] FW: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-08-11 Thread Ross
Ok, I've now reported most of the problems I found, but have additional information to add to bugs 6667199 and 667208. Can anybody tell me how I go about reporting that to Sun? thanks, Ross This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss