Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Khyron
I think the point, Chester, which everyone seems to be dancing around or missing, is that your planning may need to go back to the drawing board on this one. Absorb the resources out there for how to best configure your pools and vdevs, *then* implement. That's the most efficient way to go about

[zfs-discuss] zpool iostat reports seem odd. bug ?

2009-08-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
SUMMARY : I attach a new disk device to an existing mirror set. zpool iostat poolname 5 does not report write bandwidth data zpool iostat -v poolname 5 reports read and write data. also seen, sometimes the output for bandwidth is non-zero but has no units [ B, KB, MB, etc ].

[zfs-discuss] Any other DRAM-based old-style SSDs out there?

2009-08-10 Thread Erik Trimble
I'm looking at getting a DRAM-based Solid State Drive (the old style, using DDR or DDR2 DIMMs with a battery backup). I need something that does a silly number of IOPS, and I'm not willing to pay for a Zeus SSD. :-) I found this one: http://www.acard.com/english/fb01-product.jsp?prod_no=ANS-9

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:16:27PM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > >i think you can add different types of vdevs but doesn't it make you use > >-f? > >i thought it was "not a good idea" > > I have no idea. I am not brave enough to try it with my ow

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: i think you can add different types of vdevs but doesn't it make you use -f? i thought it was "not a good idea" I have no idea. I am not brave enough to try it with my own pool and am too lazy to test with files. There are lots of things you can d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
I guess it's all in what you want. At the end of the day, you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide what is right for you. To me, adding drives in mirrored or raidz groups is a small price to pay for the speed, ease of administration, and data integrity that zfs offers. Snapshots and clones

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Trevor Pretty
Lets not forget despite the fact us lunatic fringe use OpenSolaris on anything we can get our hands on. Sun Microsystems use Solaris to run mission critical environments and adding disk in "chunks" like you have to do in ZFS to a commercial organisation is no big deal. The data is worth far mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
i think you can add different types of vdevs but doesn't it make you use -f? i thought it was "not a good idea" On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > unfortunately this is not possible right now.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: unfortunately this is not possible right now. The only way to expand raidz is to add another raidz vdev or replace all the disks with larger ones... I don't think that there is an actual requirement for all the vdevs in a pool to be of the same type

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
unfortunately this is not possible right now. The only way to expand raidz is to add another raidz vdev or replace all the disks with larger ones... On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Nandini Mocherla wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a RAIDZ pool configured on my system with 3 disks . Now I would >

[zfs-discuss] Adding a single disk to RAIDZ pool

2009-08-10 Thread Nandini Mocherla
Hi All, I have a RAIDZ pool configured on my system with 3 disks . Now I would like to add a single disk to the existing RAIDZ pool instead of adding raidz devices. Is it possible? Thanks Nandini ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool Layout Advice Needed

2009-08-10 Thread Adam Sherman
On 9-Aug-09, at 3:50 , Erik Trimble wrote: Also, I'd recommend you not forget to remove the Swap and Dump volumes from the CF rpool. You could theoretically keep Dump, but, honestly, why bother. So, you could likely get a full install of OSOL on a 4GB CF card, and maybe even a 2GB card, e

Re: [zfs-discuss] pathnames in zfs(1M) arguments

2009-08-10 Thread Menno Lageman
On 08/10/09 11:33, Darren J Moffat wrote: Menno Lageman wrote: Mike Gerdts wrote: This was previously discussed... http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-July/019762.html Thanks for the pointer (I remember this being discussed, but couldn't find it again). That seems to be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
Why not just do simple mirrored vdevs? or use cheaper 1tb drives for the second vdev? I don't knowit's up to you...To me the benefits of ZFS far outweigh the limitations. Also, in my opinion, when you are expanding your storage, it's a good idea to add it in chunks like this...adding a 4 drive

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Chester
Thanks for the info so far. Yes, I understand that you can add more vdevs, but at what cost? With the 2TB drives costing $300 each, I wanted to get more or less the bare minimum and then add more drives once I filled the capacity. I understand that raidz1 is similar to RAID5 (it can recover f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Orvar Korvar
Yes, vdevs allow you to expand your zpool. One zpool consists of groups of hard drives. Your zpool consists of one group of drives. That group contains 4 drives that are 2TB. You can easily add another group of drives to your zpool. You can not change the number of discs of a group, but you can

Re: [zfs-discuss] pathnames in zfs(1M) arguments

2009-08-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
Menno Lageman wrote: Mike Gerdts wrote: This was previously discussed... http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-July/019762.html Thanks for the pointer (I remember this being discussed, but couldn't find it again). That seems to be pretty much the same as what I came up wit