Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
comment below... Ian Collins wrote: Richard Elling wrote: Buried in the announcements last week from Sun is the Sun Flash Module. http://www.sun.com/storage/flash/module.jsp I wanted to bring this up on this forum because it represents an interesting way to add SSD technology to a system des

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Richard Elling wrote: Brief specifications: SATA interface Thoughts? SATA is so "yesterday". It represents "in the box" thinking. Sun engineering should still be capable of thinking "outside the box". Considerable optimizations/improvements ar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Ian Collins
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Richard Elling wrote: Brief specifications: SATA interface Thoughts? SATA is so "yesterday". It represents "in the box" thinking. Sun engineering should still be capable of thinking "outside the box". Considerable optimizations/improvements ar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Richard Elling wrote: Brief specifications: SATA interface Thoughts? SATA is so "yesterday". It represents "in the box" thinking. Sun engineering should still be capable of thinking "outside the box". Considerable optimizations/improvements are possible by erradicati

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Ian Collins wrote: It does represent the next big thin in storage, but it risks languishing in a corner unless actively promoted in an easy to use form. Or until a company with more aggressive marketing picks up the idea and grabs the market. Violin (http://violin-memor

Re: [zfs-discuss] Much room for improvement for "zfs destroy -r" ...

2009-04-17 Thread Joep Vesseur
On 04/17/09 21:19, Kyle McDonald wrote: > One reason is that you're not timing how long it takes for the destroy's > to complete. You're only timing how long it takes to start all the jobs > in the background. Right, I'm sorry, my example was an oversimplification of a script I made. That script

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Ian Collins
Richard Elling wrote: Buried in the announcements last week from Sun is the Sun Flash Module. http://www.sun.com/storage/flash/module.jsp I wanted to bring this up on this forum because it represents an interesting way to add SSD technology to a system design. The new Sun Blade X6275 has slot

[zfs-discuss] Sun Flash Modules

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
Buried in the announcements last week from Sun is the Sun Flash Module. http://www.sun.com/storage/flash/module.jsp I wanted to bring this up on this forum because it represents an interesting way to add SSD technology to a system design. The new Sun Blade X6275 has slots for these SSDs and I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data size grew.. with compression on

2009-04-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Will, Monday, April 13, 2009, 6:44:47 PM, you wrote: WM> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 07:03, Robert Milkowski wrote: >> Hello Daniel, >> >> Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35:07 PM, you wrote: >> >> DR> Jonathan schrieb: OpenSolaris Forums wrote: > if you have a snapshot of your files and r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Much room for improvement for "zfs destroy -r" ...

2009-04-17 Thread Kyle McDonald
Joep Vesseur wrote: All, I was wondering why "zfs destroy -r" is so excruciatingly slow compared to parallel destroys. < SNIP> while a little handy-work with # time for i in `zfs list | awk '/blub2\\// {print $1}'` ;\ do ( zfs destroy $i & ) ; done yields real0m8.191s

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Tim
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Dave wrote: > >> >> Not to nitpick, but I think most people would prefer the singular 'data' >> when referring to the storage of data. The plural 'data' in this case is >> very awkward. >

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Dave wrote: Not to nitpick, but I think most people would prefer the singular 'data' when referring to the storage of data. The plural 'data' in this case is very awkward. Assuming that what is stored can be classified as data! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data Why d

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Dave
Carson Gaspar wrote: Tim wrote (although it wasn't his error originally): Unless you want to have a different response for each of the repair methods, I'd just drop that part: status: One or more devices has experienced an error. The error has been automatically corrected by zfs.

[zfs-discuss] Much room for improvement for "zfs destroy -r" ...

2009-04-17 Thread Joep Vesseur
All, I was wondering why "zfs destroy -r" is so excruciatingly slow compared to parallel destroys. On my x4500, for example, after having created 1000 filesystems named pool/blub2/ [...] pool/blub2/0999 and keeping them empty, a subsequent destroy with # time zfs destroy -r poo

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Drew Balfour
Are you assuming that bad disk blocks are returned to the free pool? Hrm. I was assuming that zfs was unaware of the source of the error, and therefore unable to avoid running into it again. If it was a bad sector, and the disk knows about it, then you probably woulnd't see it again. But if th

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Carson Gaspar
Tim wrote (although it wasn't his error originally): Unless you want to have a different response for each of the repair methods, I'd just drop that part: status: One or more devices has experienced an error. The error has been automatically corrected by zfs. Data on the pool is

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Tim
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > Drew Balfour wrote: > >> Now I wonder where that error came from. It was just a single checksum >> error. It couldn't go away with an earlier scrub, and seemingly left no >> traces of badness on the drive. Something serious? At leas

Re: [zfs-discuss] Errors on mirrored drive

2009-04-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 17-Apr-09, at 11:49 AM, Frank Middleton wrote: ... One might argue that a machine this flaky should be retired, but it is actually working quite well, If it has bad memory, you won't get much useful work done on it until the memory is replaced - unless you want to risk your data with r

Re: [zfs-discuss] How recoverable is an 'unrecoverable error'?

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Elling
Drew Balfour wrote: Now I wonder where that error came from. It was just a single checksum error. It couldn't go away with an earlier scrub, and seemingly left no traces of badness on the drive. Something serious? At least it looks a tad contradictory: "Applications are unaffected.", it is unr

Re: [zfs-discuss] sharenfs settings ignored

2009-04-17 Thread Tim
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:15 AM, erik.ableson wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working on a new OS 2008.11 setup here and running into a few issues > with the nfs integration. Notably, it appears that subnet values attributed > to sharenfs are ignored and gives back a permission denied for all > conne

Re: [zfs-discuss] Errors on mirrored drive

2009-04-17 Thread Casper . Dik
>I'd like to submit an RFE suggesting that data + checksum be copied for >mirrored writes, but I won't waste anyone's time doing so unless you >think there is a point. One might argue that a machine this flaky should >be retired, but it is actually working quite well, and perhaps represents >not e

Re: [zfs-discuss] Destroying a zfs dataset

2009-04-17 Thread Mark J Musante
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Mark J Musante wrote: The dependency is based on the names. I should clarify what I mean by that. There are actually two dependencies here: one is based on dataset names, and one is based on snapshots and clones. If there are two datasets, pool/foo and pool/foo/bar, t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Errors on mirrored drive

2009-04-17 Thread Frank Middleton
On 04/16/09 04:39, casper@sun.com wrote: You really believe that the copy was copied and checksummed twice before writing to the disk? Of course not. Copying the data doesn't help; both pieces of memory need to be good. It's checksummed once. If OpenSolaris succeeds in being significant

Re: [zfs-discuss] Destroying a zfs dataset

2009-04-17 Thread Mark J Musante
The dependency is based on the names. Try renaming testpool/testfs2/clone1 out of the hierarchy: zfs rename testpool/testfs2/clone1 testpool/foo Then it should be possible to destroy testpool/testfs2. On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Grant Lowe wrote: I was wondering if there is a solution for this

Re: [zfs-discuss] Destroying a zfs dataset

2009-04-17 Thread Grant Lowe
I was wondering if there is a solution for this. I've been able to replicate a similar problem on a different server. Basically I'm still unable to use zfs destroy on a filesystem, that was a parent filesystem and is now a child filesystem after a promotion. bash-3.00# zpool history History f

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Locking Up periodically

2009-04-17 Thread Andrew Robert Nicols
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:29:23PM +0100, Andrew Robert Nicols wrote: > I'm still seeing this problem frequently and the suggestions Viktor made > below haven't helped (exclude: drv/ohci in /etc/system). > > I've got a selection of core dumps for analysis if anyone can suggest what > analysis to d

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Locking Up periodically

2009-04-17 Thread Andrew Robert Nicols
I'm still seeing this problem frequently and the suggestions Viktor made below haven't helped (exclude: drv/ohci in /etc/system). I've got a selection of core dumps for analysis if anyone can suggest what analysis to do with them. I've also replicated this on a second identical X4500 which was ru

[zfs-discuss] sharenfs settings ignored

2009-04-17 Thread erik.ableson
Hi there, I'm working on a new OS 2008.11 setup here and running into a few issues with the nfs integration. Notably, it appears that subnet values attributed to sharenfs are ignored and gives back a permission denied for all connection attempts. I have another environment where permissi