Ok, Torrey, I like you, so one more comment before I go to bed --
Please go study the EMC NetWorker 7.5, and why EMC can claim leadership in
VSS support.
Then, if you still don't understand the importance of VSS, just ask me in an
open fashion, I will teach you.
The importance of storage in sys
Compared to hw raid only snapshots ZFS is still, imho, easier to use.
If you start talking about VSS, aka shadow copy for Windows, you're now
at the fs level. I can see that VSS offers an API for 3rd parties to use
but, as I literally just started reading about it, I'm not an expert.
From a qu
Ok, I am tired and going to bed.
Thanks, Real Sun Storage folks, this is the best discussion I have had in
months.
I am satisfied. ;-)
Goodnight, and long live the open spirit!!!
zStorageAnalyst
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Torrey McMahon" <[EMA
Torrey, now this impressive as the old days with Sun Storage.
Ok, ZFS PiT is only a software solution.
The Windows VSS is not only a software solution, but also a 3rd party
integration standard from MS.
What's your comment on ZFS PiT is better than MS PiT, in light of openness
and 3rd-party inte
Richard Elling wrote:
> Joseph Zhou wrote:
>
>> Yeah?
>> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sas/value/SAS-31605/_details/Series3_FAQs.htm
>> Snapshot is a big deal?
>>
>>
>
> Snapshot is a big deal, but you will find most "hardware" RAID
> implementations
> are s
Richard, thank you so very much!
This is the kind of answer I expected from Sun Storage.
I will do more studies before I speak again.
Happy holidays!!!
z
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Elling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "William D. Hathaway" <[EMAIL
Joseph Zhou wrote:
> Yeah?
> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sas/value/SAS-31605/_details/Series3_FAQs.htm
> Snapshot is a big deal?
>
Snapshot is a big deal, but you will find most "hardware" RAID
implementations
are somewhat limited, as the above adaptec only suppo
Is Jeff Cheeney still on this list? He had an open mind.
Jeff, if you can see this, tell me if I am wrong! Please!
Thanks!
z
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William D. Hathaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: S
Yeah?
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sas/value/SAS-31605/_details/Series3_FAQs.htm
Snapshot is a big deal?
Windows OS does that too.
Compression -- where is the performance data showing compression in
OpenSolaris has little overhead?
Clones -- tell me the benefit of
I don't understand your statement/questions. This wasn't a response to "ZFS
versus every possible storage platform in the world". The original poster was
asking about comparing ZFS versus hardware RAID on specific machines as
mentioned in the title. AFAIK you don't get compression, snapshots
Ethan Erchinger wrote:
> Here is a sample set of messages at that time. It looks like timeouts
> on the SSD for various requested blocks. Maybe I need to talk with
> Intel about this issue.
>
Keeping everyone up-to-date, for those who care, I've RMAd the Intel
drive, and will retest when
Tim, thanks, yeah, I have highlighted Sun Storage SSD, see my blog, if you are
really interested.
http://ideasint.blogs.com/ideasinsights/2008/10/ssd-shines-new.html
note the Sun Storage comment to the blog and my reply.
Happy holidays!
z
- Original Message -
From: Tim
To: Joseph
Ian, Tim, again, thank you very much in answering my question.
I am a bit disappointed that the whole discussion group does not have one
person to stand up and say "yeah, OpenSolaris absolutely outperforms Linux
and Windows, because.."
But I wish, one day, we can be arguing not on a basis o
Thanks, but compared to what?
To Windows, are you sure we can say "lot of additional"?
To Linux, maybe, since I am not a Linux fan.
To leading NAS appliances, these are not competitive advantages.
"opensolaris.org" posted this, I would like an official answer!
The Open-spirit should be encouraged,
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:36:35PM -0800, Joseph Mocker wrote:
> Does PAE help things at all on 32-bit ?
No.
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC
They also mentioned this at some of the ZFS talks at LISA 2008.The general
argument is that, while plenty of hobbyists are clamoring for this, not enough
paying customers are asking to make it a high enough priority to get done.
If you think about it, the code is not only complicated but wi
If I remember right, the code needed for this has implications for a lot of
things:
- defrag
- adding disks to raidz zvols
- removing disks from vols
- restriping volumes (to give consistent performance after expansion)
In fact, I just found the question I asked a year or so back, which had a go
Hello
> i've been following the "[zfs-discuss] 'zfs recv' is very slow" thread
> and i believe i have the same issue; we get ~10MB/sec sending large
> incrimental data sets using zfs send | ssh | zfs recv. I'd like to try
> mbuffer.
>
> We're running Solaris Express Developers Edition (SunOS murr
Does PAE help things at all on 32-bit ?
Brian Hechinger wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:42:44PM -0600, Tim wrote:
>
>> "Solaris + ZFS and this is a concern"
>>
>> Sounds to me like they want to try out solaris + zfs, not "zfs on fuse".
>>
>
> Ooops, misread what he said. Sorry about
Hi guys,
i've been following the "[zfs-discuss] 'zfs recv' is very slow" thread
and i believe i have the same issue; we get ~10MB/sec sending large
incrimental data sets using zfs send | ssh | zfs recv. I'd like to try
mbuffer.
We're running Solaris Express Developers Edition (SunOS murray 5.11
s
Richard Elling wrote:
> Ian Collins wrote:
>> Ian Collins wrote:
>>> Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Ian Collins wrote:
> I've just finished a small application to couple zfs_send and
> zfs_receive through a socket to remove ssh from the equation and the
> speed up is better than 2x.
Hi Joe,
Joe S wrote:
> How do I get SMART data from my drives?
>
> I'm running snv_101 on AMD64.
>
> I have 6x SATA disks.
I guess that highly depends how these are connected. If they are not
'hidden' behind a RAID-controller, you might have success with
http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/do
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:42:44PM -0600, Tim wrote:
> "Solaris + ZFS and this is a concern"
>
> Sounds to me like they want to try out solaris + zfs, not "zfs on fuse".
Ooops, misread what he said. Sorry about that.
I suppose my original comment still stands then. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C i
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Brian Hechinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:31:06AM -0500, Toby Thain wrote:
> >
> > > Its not me. There are people on Linux forums that wont to try out
> > > Solaris + ZFS and this is a concern, for them. What should I tell
> > > them?
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 11:31:06AM -0500, Toby Thain wrote:
>
> > Its not me. There are people on Linux forums that wont to try out
> > Solaris + ZFS and this is a concern, for them. What should I tell
> > them? That it is not fixed? That they have reboot every week?
> > Someone knows?
>
>
How do I get SMART data from my drives?
I'm running snv_101 on AMD64.
I have 6x SATA disks.
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On 6-Dec-08, at 7:10 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
> Its not me. There are people on Linux forums that wont to try out
> Solaris + ZFS and this is a concern, for them. What should I tell
> them? That it is not fixed? That they have reboot every week?
> Someone knows?
That it's not recommended f
> However, I notice that when using ZFS on Indiana the above commands fail
> with the following error:
>
>File system doesn't support aclent_t style ACL's.
>See acl(5) for more information on ACL styles support by Solaris.
>
> What is the appropriate command to use with ZFS?
You can us
Its not me. There are people on Linux forums that wont to try out Solaris + ZFS
and this is a concern, for them. What should I tell them? That it is not fixed?
That they have reboot every week? Someone knows?
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> I am the maintainer of GDM, and I am noticing that GDM has a problem when
> running on a ZFS filesystem, as with Indiana.
>
> When GDM (the GNOME Display Manager) starts the login GUI, it runs the
> following commands on Solaris:
Ian Collins wrote:
> Andrew Gabriel wrote:
>
>> Ian Collins wrote:
>>
>>> I've just finished a small application to couple zfs_send and
>>> zfs_receive through a socket to remove ssh from the equation and the
>>> speed up is better than 2x. I have a small (140K) buffer on the sending
>>> s
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