Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris Drivers (was: 7-disk raidz ac hieves 430 MB/s reads and 220 MB/s writes on a $1320 box)

2008-03-17 Thread Marc Bevand
Brandon High freaks.com> writes: > [...] > The lack of documentation for supported devices is a general complaint > of mine with Solaris x86, perhaps better taken to the opensolaris-discuss > list however. I replied to all your questions in opensolaris-discuss. -marc ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] [dtrace-discuss] periodic ZFS disk accesses

2008-03-17 Thread Dan Mick
Bill Shannon wrote: > I just wanted to follow up on this issue I raised a few weeks ago. > > With help from several of you, I had all the information and tools > I needed to start debugging my problem. Which of course meant that > my problem disappeared! > > At one point my theory was that ksh93

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ACLs/Samba integration

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Mark Shellenbaum wrote: > >> I will go ahead and do a fastrack to get the behavior that many people >> want. Basically, if inheritable ACEs are present for owner@, group@, >> everyone@ then the inherited ACE permissions will override the requested >> m

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ACLs/Samba integration

2008-03-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Mark Shellenbaum wrote: > I will go ahead and do a fastrack to get the behavior that many people > want. Basically, if inheritable ACEs are present for owner@, group@, > everyone@ then the inherited ACE permissions will override the requested > mode of the application. If no

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ACLs/Samba integration

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > >> I suspect at least some of the membership would be interested in this >> sort of extension and it shouldn't be that hard to "sell" if it's not the >> default behavior and it's clearly documented that turning it on (probably >

[zfs-discuss] Solaris Drivers (was: 7-disk raidz achieves 430 MB/s reads and 220 MB/s writes on a $1320 box)

2008-03-17 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Marc Bevand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PCI-X card...). The rest is also dirty cheap: $65 Asus M2A-VM motherboard, > $60 > dual-core Athlon 64 X2 4000+, with 1GB of DDR2 800, and a 400W PSU. Apologies for the threadjack (um, again) but did you know that the RS6

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ACLs/Samba integration

2008-03-17 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > I suspect at least some of the membership would be interested in this > sort of extension and it shouldn't be that hard to "sell" if it's not the > default behavior and it's clearly documented that turning it on (probably > on a fs-by-fs basis like eve

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ACLs/Samba integration

2008-03-17 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 18:11 -0600, Mark Shellenbaum wrote: > > I think it is a misnomer to call the current > > implementation of ZFS a "pure ACL" system, as clearly the ACLs are heavily > > contaminated by legacy mode bits. > > Feel free to open an RFE. It may be a tough sell with PSARC, but m

Re: [zfs-discuss] FiberChannel, and EMC tutorial?

2008-03-17 Thread Daniel Rock
Kyle McDonald schrieb: > Hi all, > > Can anyone explain to me, or point me to any docs that explain how the > following numbers map together? > > I have multiple LUNS exported to my HBA's from multiple EMC arrays. > > zpool status, and /dev/dsk show device names like: > > c0t6006048000

Re: [zfs-discuss] 7-disk raidz achieves 430 MB/s reads and 220 MB/s writes on a $1320 box

2008-03-17 Thread Marc Bevand
Brandon High freaks.com> writes: > Do you have access to a Sil3726 port multiplier? Nope. But AFAIK OpenSolaris doesn't support port multipliers yet. Maybe FreeBSD does. Keep in mind that three modern drives (334GB/platter) are all it takes to saturate a SATA 3.0Gbps link. > It's also easier to

Re: [zfs-discuss] 7-disk raidz achieves 430 MB/s reads and 220 MB/s writes on a $1320 box

2008-03-17 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/17/08, Brandon High <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > easier to use an external disk box like the CFI 8-drive eSATA tower > > than find a reasonable server case that can hold that many drives. > > Woah, why would you spend 1600$ on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Bryan Wagoner
So yeah, you just supported what I said about a database on top of a filesystem being useful because HFS uses a database type structure for it's catalog. It's an object based storage but the schema in HFS isn't as extensible as to what I'm referring to in future Content Addressable Storage syste

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Dick Davies
Have you ever used a Mac? HFS has had these features for years. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Bryan Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, having a database on top of an FS is really useful. It's a Content > Addressable Storage system.One of the problem home users have is that >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Nice chassis for ZFS server

2008-03-17 Thread Jacob Ritorto
Hi all, Did anyone ever confirm whether this ssr212 box, without hardware raid option, works reliably under OpenSolaris without fooling around with external drivers, etc.? I need a box like this, but can't find a vendor that will give me a try & buy. (Yes, I'm spoiled by Sun). thx jak

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Orvar Korvar
That sounds neat. Just like spotlight(?) search function for Mac OS X, but built into the DB on top the file system? Is fast searches the only advantage? Then, isnt there any spotlight search function for solaris? This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [zfs-discuss] 7-disk raidz achieves 430 MB/s reads and 220 MB/s writes on a $1320 box

2008-03-17 Thread Tim
On 3/17/08, Brandon High <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Marc Bevand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > integrated AHCI controller (SB600 chipset), 2 disks on a 2-port $20 > PCI-E 1x > > SiI3132 controller, and the 7th disk on a $65 4-port PCI-X SiI3124 > controller >

Re: [zfs-discuss] 7-disk raidz achieves 430 MB/s reads and 220 MB/s writes on a $1320 box

2008-03-17 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Marc Bevand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > integrated AHCI controller (SB600 chipset), 2 disks on a 2-port $20 PCI-E 1x > SiI3132 controller, and the 7th disk on a $65 4-port PCI-X SiI3124 controller Do you have access to a Sil3726 port multiplier? I'd like to see

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Bryan Wagoner
Actually, having a database on top of an FS is really useful. It's a Content Addressable Storage system.One of the problem home users have is that they are putting more and more of their lives in digital format. Users need a way to organize and search all that info in some sort of meaningf

[zfs-discuss] FiberChannel, and EMC tutorial?

2008-03-17 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi all, Can anyone explain to me, or point me to any docs that explain how the following numbers map together? I have multiple LUNS exported to my HBA's from multiple EMC arrays. zpool status, and /dev/dsk show device names like: c0t600604838794003753594D333837d0 ONLINE 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Richard Elling
Orvar Korvar wrote: > Ok, thanx for your answers! > > So, I guess there is no point in providing a database on top of ZFS, just as > MS tried to do? A WinFS like thing on ZFS wouldnt be beneficial at all? > Better off with plain ZFS? > I don't think this is a simple question. The way ZFS is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Orvar Korvar wrote: > > So, I guess there is no point in providing a database on top of ZFS, > just as MS tried to do? A WinFS like thing on ZFS wouldnt be > beneficial at all? Better off with plain ZFS? That would depend entirely on requirements and expectations. The issu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok, thanx for your answers! So, I guess there is no point in providing a database on top of ZFS, just as MS tried to do? A WinFS like thing on ZFS wouldnt be beneficial at all? Better off with plain ZFS? This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] Migrating from mirror to raidz

2008-03-17 Thread Eric Ham
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Patrick Schlaepfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to migrate a zpool mirror to > a zpool raidz? > > Right now I do have two disk mirrored. So, > can I add a thrid and migrate this pool to > a raidz pool, or do I have to backup all the > data in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Orvar Korvar wrote: > > My question is, because WinFS database is running on top of NTFS, > could a similar thing be done for ZFS? Implement a database running > on top of ZFS, that has similar functionality as WinFS? Object-oriented content management could be run on any so

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Send and recieve

2008-03-17 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
Hi All ; I am not a Solaris or ZFS expert and I am in need of your help. When I run the following command zfs send -i [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ssh 10.10.103.42 zfs receive -F data/data41 if some one is accessing data/data41 folder system gives the following error mes

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
Please check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS MS put a lot of efforts on it however they were unable to lunch it. Best regards Mertol Ozyoney Storage Practice - Sales Manager Sun Microsystems, TR Istanbul TR Phone +902123352200 Mobile +905339310752 Fax +90212335 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Mario Goebbels
> Ive heard that WinFS is a filesystem that has some kind of database? I didnt > understand the advantages because I havent read about it, but it is the best > thing since sliced bread according to MS. > > My question is, because WinFS database is running on top of NTFS, could a > similar thing

[zfs-discuss] Microsoft WinFS for ZFS?

2008-03-17 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ive heard that WinFS is a filesystem that has some kind of database? I didnt understand the advantages because I havent read about it, but it is the best thing since sliced bread according to MS. My question is, because WinFS database is running on top of NTFS, could a similar thing be done for