Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: concatination & stripe - zfs?

2007-04-24 Thread Manoj Joseph
Richard Elling wrote: In other words, the "sync" command schedules a sync. The consistent way to tell if writing is finished is to observe the actual I/O activity. ZFS goes beyond this POSIX requirement. When a sync(1M) returns, all dirty data that has been cached has been committed to disk.

[zfs-discuss] Re: Volume copy of master system with zfs

2007-04-24 Thread Asif Iqbal
On 4/24/07, Asif Iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone has any suggestion besides what I am planning to use? On 4/21/07, Asif Iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a master system w/ few non-glabal zones on zfs fs runnin sol 10 > 11/06. I need to build few systems using the master syste

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:08:21PM -0700, roland wrote: > > So, at this point in time that seems pretty discouraging for an everyday > > user, on Linux. > > nobody told, that zfs-fuse is ready for an everyday user at it`s current > state ! ;) Also keep in mind that FUSE has the disadvantage of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 04:51:10PM -0700, oliver soell wrote: > I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's > zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 > (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling). > > You mention tha

[zfs-discuss] rootpool notes

2007-04-24 Thread Rob Logan
updating my notes with Lori's rootpool notes found in http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsboot-manual/ using the Solaris Express: Community Release DVD (no asserts like bfu code) from http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/ and installing the "Solaris Express" (second option,

[zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread oliver soell
I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling). You mention that no UFS slices are necessary using the patched DVD netinstall - is a d

[zfs-discuss] Re[4]: [nfs-discuss] NFSd and dtrace

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello eric, Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 1:29:32 AM, you wrote: ek> On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: >> Hello eric, >> >> Friday, April 20, 2007, 4:01:46 PM, you wrote: >> >> ek> On Apr 18, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Robert Milkowski wrote: >> Hello Robert, Thursday, April

[zfs-discuss] software RAID vs. HW RAID - part III

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, http://milek.blogspot.com/2007/04/hw-raid-vs-zfs-software-raid-part-iii.html -- Best regards, Robert Milkowskimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://milek.blogspot.com ___ zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 10:20:23AM -0700, mario heimel wrote: > hi brain, Ok, the solution to the 'bad PBR sig' issue was to wholesale delete the VM and create a new one fresh. The install has started, we'll see how it goes. I'll report here. -brian -- "Perl can be fast and elegant as much as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: concatination & stripe - zfs?

2007-04-24 Thread Richard Elling
Marion Hakanson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - I will try your test. - But How the zfs cash affect my test? You can measure this yourself. Try running the test both with and without the "sync" command at the end. You should see a faster completion time without the "sync", but not all dat

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: concatination & stripe - zfs?

2007-04-24 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > - I will try your test. > - But How the zfs cash affect my test? You can measure this yourself. Try running the test both with and without the "sync" command at the end. You should see a faster completion time without the "sync", but not all data will have made it to

[zfs-discuss] Re: Volume copy of master system with zfs

2007-04-24 Thread Asif Iqbal
Anyone has any suggestion besides what I am planning to use? On 4/21/07, Asif Iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a master system w/ few non-glabal zones on zfs fs runnin sol 10 11/06. I need to build few systems using the master system as the master image. I know I can't flasharchive the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
As I don't have a jumpstart system either, I think this might be the best approach for me as well... I can use the old b60 install to make the modified b62. Thanks, Malachi On 4/24/07, mario heimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi brain, in the following blueprint you will find the way to make t

[zfs-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on zfs-discuss

2007-04-24 Thread Eric Boutilier
For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = zfs-discuss 04/01 - 04/15 = Size of all threads during per

[zfs-discuss] disruption to IO of zpool causes reboot/boot issue

2007-04-24 Thread derek proulx
Reproduction: - - - make a big file, say /tank/dep/tank2 - - - cd /tank/dep - - - dd if=tank2 of=/dev/null bs=1024k - - - ^C this after a short time - - - disconnect the iSCSI target from the network fabric - - - dd if=tank2 of=/dev/null bs=1024k System Dumps/reboots and won't boot until target i

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread mario heimel
hi brain, in the following blueprint you will find the way to make the dvd bootable. http://www.sun.com/blueprints/0806/819-7546.pdf Step 1: Copy the DVD to Writable Disk The process of copying the DVD to writable disk is relatively straightforward. You need enough space on the target disk to st

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:58:54AM -0700, William D. Hathaway wrote: > I've only used Lori Alt's patch for b62 boot images via jumpstart > (http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=28725&tstart=15) > which made it an easy process with mirrored boot ZFS drives and no UFS > partitions re

[zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread William D. Hathaway
I've only used Lori Alt's patch for b62 boot images via jumpstart (http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=28725&tstart=15) which made it an easy process with mirrored boot ZFS drives and no UFS partitions required. If you have a jumpstart server, I think that is the best way to go.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Darren J Moffat
Richard Elling wrote: /var/tm Similar to the /var/log rationale. [assuming /var/tmp] I intended to type /var/fm not /var/tm or /var/tmp. The FMA state data is I believe something that you would want to share between all boot environments on a given bit of hardware, right ? -- Darren

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Nicolas Williams
I left a comment on Lori's blog to the effect that splitting the namespace would complicate LU tools. Perhaps we need a zfs clone -r to match zfs snapshot -r? Nico -- ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Richard Elling
We're also updating the EIS bootdisk standard, and are considering similar recommendations. File systems are still not free. They have costs in complexity and maintenance, especially backup/restore. One of the benefits of a single namespace is that it is relatively simple to backup and restore

Re: [zfs-discuss] FYI: X4500 (aka thumper) sale

2007-04-24 Thread Rayson Ho
Also related to ZFS/X4500: 1) Sun Fire X4500 Data Server for Mainframes, ZFS for mainframe: http://www.luminex.com/about/press/pr070417.html 2) Written by Jim Gray and his co-workers: Performance of a Sun X4500 under Windows, NTFS and SQLserver 2005 http://research.microsoft.com/~Gray/papers/JHU

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Robert, Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 4:59:31 PM, you wrote: RM> Hello Darren, RM> Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 3:33:47 PM, you wrote: DJM>> With reference to Lori's blog posting[1] I'd like to throw out a few of DJM>> my thoughts on spliting up the namespace. DJM>> This is quite timely because o

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Darren, Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 3:33:47 PM, you wrote: DJM> With reference to Lori's blog posting[1] I'd like to throw out a few of DJM> my thoughts on spliting up the namespace. DJM> This is quite timely because only yesterday when I was updating the ZFS DJM> crypto document I was thinki

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re[2]: Re: opensol-20060605 # zpool iostat -v 1

2007-04-24 Thread Ron Halstead
Thanks Robert. This will be put to use. Ron This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re[2]: Re: opensol-20060605 # zpool iostat -v 1

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Ron, Tuesday, April 24, 2007, 4:20:41 PM, you wrote: RH> Robert, RH> How do you set bshift to ^13 (8K)? Is there a document describing the procedure? In latest nevada you can set it via /etc/system like: set zfs:zfs_vdev_cache_bshift=13 (2^13 is 8K). In older releases or in S10U2/U

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz pool with a slice on the boot disk

2007-04-24 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi Russell, Russell Baird wrote: > I created a pool with the following command… > > zpool create -f batches raidz c0t0d0s7 c0t1d0 c0t2d0 c0t3d0 > > Notice that I specified slice 7, which is an unused slice on my boot disk > t0. No part of the operating system exists on slice 7. Is this accepta

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs submounts and permissions with autofs

2007-04-24 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Gavin Maltby wrote: Hi, Is it expected that if I have filesystem tank/foo and tank/foo/bar (mounted under /tank) then in order to be able to browse via /net down into tank/foo/bar I need to have group/other permissions on /tank/foo open? You are running into bug: 4697677 permissions of underl

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re[2]: Re: opensol-20060605 # zpool iostat -v 1

2007-04-24 Thread Ron Halstead
Robert, How do you set bshift to ^13 (8K)? Is there a document describing the procedure? Ron This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] raidz pool with a slice on the boot disk

2007-04-24 Thread Russell Baird
I created a pool with the following command… zpool create -f batches raidz c0t0d0s7 c0t1d0 c0t2d0 c0t3d0 Notice that I specified slice 7, which is an unused slice on my boot disk t0. No part of the operating system exists on slice 7. Is this acceptable? Will this jeopardize the redundancy of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:48:33AM -0400, Mark J Musante wrote: > > I believe we should stick to the most basic config for the default Solaris > installer. Certainly it should allow the admin to create whataever > datasets might be desired, but we should keep it simple for the default > case. >

[zfs-discuss] Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-24 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
I currently have b60 kinda installed (there, but still having some issues learning my way around configuration). I am downloading b62 now in order to try to switch to zfs mirrored root. I thought that I should make sure I know what I am doing before I go forward, so here are a few questions... 1

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Mark J Musante
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Darren J Moffat wrote: > There are obvious other places that would really benefit but I think > having them as separate datasets really depends on what the machine is > doing. For example /var/apache if you really are a webserver, but then > why not go one better and split ou

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-04-24 Thread Darren J Moffat
With reference to Lori's blog posting[1] I'd like to throw out a few of my thoughts on spliting up the namespace. This is quite timely because only yesterday when I was updating the ZFS crypto document I was thinking about this. I knew I needed ephemeral key support for ZVOLs so we could swap

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs receive and setting properties like compression

2007-04-24 Thread Lyle Merdan
I appreciate all the help guys! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Now that FreeBSD has ZFS (basically)

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 07:43:17AM -0500, Brian Hechinger wrote: > > That isn't to say you should let us all know what you find. ;) Ugh. s/should/shouldn't/ Must Get. More. Coffee.. -brian -- "Perl can be fast and elegant as much as J2EE can be fast and elegant. In the hands

Re: [zfs-discuss] Now that FreeBSD has ZFS (basically)

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 03:44:05PM -0700, mike wrote: > > #3 FreeBSD + the controller compatibility - assuming the controller > supports the port multipliers The way I understand it, ZFS was written into GEOM on FreeBSD, so as long as FreeBSD can use a certain controler it can offer it up to the

[zfs-discuss] *** High Praise for ZFS and NFS services ***

2007-04-24 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dear ZFS and OpenSolaris people : I recently upgraded a large NFS server upwards from Solaris 8. This is a production manufacturing facility with football field sized factory floors and 25 tonne steel products. Many on-site engineers on AIX and CATIA as well as Solaris users and Windows and ev

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-04-24 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 11:42:41PM -0700, Georg-W. Koltermann wrote: > > > So, at this point in time that seems pretty > > discouraging for an everyday user, on Linux. > > > > nobody told, that zfs-fuse is ready for an everyday > > user at it`s current state ! ;) > > That's what I found out, want

[zfs-discuss] A big Thank You to the ZFS team!

2007-04-24 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, I just got ZFS boot up and running on my laptop. This being a major milestone in the history of ZFS, I thought I'd reflect a bit on what ZFS brought to my life so far: - I'm using ZFS at home and on my laptop since January 2006 for mission critical purposes: - Backups of my wife's and m

[zfs-discuss] zfs submounts and permissions with autofs

2007-04-24 Thread Gavin Maltby
Hi, Is it expected that if I have filesystem tank/foo and tank/foo/bar (mounted under /tank) then in order to be able to browse via /net down into tank/foo/bar I need to have group/other permissions on /tank/foo open? # zfs create tank/foo # zfs create tank/foo/bar # chown gavinm /tank/foo /tank