[zfs-discuss] Move data from the zpool (root) to a zfs file system

2007-04-13 Thread Jonathan Loran
Hi List, As a ZFS newbie, I foolishly copied my data set to the root zpool file system (a large iSCSI SAN array). Thus: # zpool create -f iscsi c4t19d0 c4t20d0 c4t21d0 c4t22d0 c4t23d0 c4t24d0 # zpool list NAMESIZEUSED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT iscsi

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to bind the oracle 9i data file to zfs volumes

2007-04-13 Thread Simon
Peter, I try to change these devices permission to oracle:dba,but the errors are persistent.I think in ZFS,there is no concept of volumes, at least in the traditional sense of volume managers,So if trying to use the RAW device that the zpool command created, maybe it is not what ZFS is intended

[zfs-discuss] ZFS for Linux (NO LISCENCE talk, please)

2007-04-13 Thread David R. Litwin
Hello. I'm a nobody. I use Linux. I have a hard-drive. I want the best / sexiest / what ever fs for my hard-drive, as it isn't one of those flashy flash drives, which I presume don't need an fs (???). I was THRILLED that the ZFS for Linux thread started. And, I was equally horrified (and suffici

Re: [zfs-discuss] FreeBSD's system flags.

2007-04-13 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:26 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: > > (the "system" flags on *BSD are tied to securelevel; the closet solaris > > equivalent would be to define new "set system flag" and "clear system > > flag" privileges). > > There'd have to be a way to drop these privs from L on all ru

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to dtrace which process is writting a veritas volume?

2007-04-13 Thread Carisdad
Rayson Ho wrote: On 4/12/07, Chen, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How to dtrace a who is writing a veritas volume? May be fuser or lsof is faster to provide the answer?? Rayson Thanks. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Rayson Ho
On 4/13/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I definitely prefer CDDL or BSD license - they just offer more freedom. +1 The Linux community won't be happy unless they get anything and everything opensourced. And not only opensourced, it has to be under GPL. And not only under GPL, t

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Claus Guttesen
And then you complain you can't get zfs or nvidia or wifi or ... drivers, because you want that drivers and you want to force those companies to give them for you under GPLv2. Some companies try to go around that problem and there's still no consensus if it's legal or not - but everyone is happy e

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Toby, Friday, April 13, 2007, 3:06:44 PM, you wrote: TT> On 13-Apr-07, at 9:51 AM, Al Hopper wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: >> >>> >>> On 12-Apr-07, at 11:51 PM, Rich Teer wrote: >>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: > Those who promulgate the tag for w

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Rich, Friday, April 13, 2007, 4:39:03 PM, you wrote: RT> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: >> IMHO, this is a faulty conclusion. RT> And I disagree. So we'll have to agree to disagree. >> The interesting use case of "contributing", and I think the one that spurred >> the creation o

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-13 Thread Lori Alt
Malachi de Ælfweald wrote: This may be a very stupid question, but In the current procedure, we have to install onto UFS then convert the UFS to ZFS... During install, we can launch a terminal and run ZFS commands... Would it be possible, doing a fresh install, to use the terminal to ru

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base.

2007-04-13 Thread Oliver Fromme
Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > I'm happy to inform that the ZFS file system is now part of the FreeBSD > operating system. ZFS is available in the HEAD branch and will be > available in FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE as an experimental feature. Great work, Pawel! This is an important milestone for the Free

Re: STOP PLEASE Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Apr-07, at 11:53 AM, Darren J Moffat wrote: Can we please get this licensing debate OFF zfs-discuss. Ack. :) --T The thread has long since lost any relevance to ZFS on Linux or even ZFS in general. It instead has become yet another debate by non legally trained people on their

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Apr-07, at 11:43 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 13-Apr-07, at 4:22 AM, Dick Davies wrote: On 13/04/07, Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those who promulgate the tag for whatever motive - often agencies of Microsoft - have all foundered on the simple fact that the GPL applies ONLY to M

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Apr-07, at 11:39 AM, Rich Teer wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: IMHO, this is a faulty conclusion. And I disagree. So we'll have to agree to disagree. The interesting use case of "contributing", and I think the one that spurred the creation of the GPL, is "I use this

STOP PLEASE Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
Can we please get this licensing debate OFF zfs-discuss. The thread has long since lost any relevance to ZFS on Linux or even ZFS in general. It instead has become yet another debate by non legally trained people on their interpretations of one license over another. -- Darren J Moffat _

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Apr-07, at 4:22 AM, Dick Davies wrote: On 13/04/07, Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those who promulgate the tag for whatever motive - often agencies of Microsoft - have all foundered on the simple fact that the GPL applies ONLY to MY code as licensor (*and modifications thereto*)

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: > IMHO, this is a faulty conclusion. And I disagree. So we'll have to agree to disagree. > The interesting use case of "contributing", and I think the one that spurred > the creation of the GPL, is "I use this but I need to customise it a bit". In > this s

Re: [zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-13 Thread Lori Alt
Peter Bunclark wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Lori Alt wrote: Booting from zfs will not require any changes to OBP. Existing proms will support it. Lori Then presumably not from EFI-labelled disks - is that coming? Pete. I'm afraid that I don't know the answer to that. Maybe someon

Re: [zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-13 Thread Peter Bunclark
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Lori Alt wrote: > > Booting from zfs will not require any changes to OBP. > Existing proms will support it. > > Lori Then presumably not from EFI-labelled disks - is that coming? Pete. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-13 Thread Lori Alt
Dick Davies wrote: On 13/04/07, Lori Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sparc support is in the works. We're waiting on some other development work going on right now in the area of sparc booting in general (not specific to zfs booting, although the zfs boot loader is part of that project). I can

[zfs-discuss] crash

2007-04-13 Thread Opensolaris Aserver
Hello ZFS mailinglist, We are using ZFS (over ISCSI) on Opensolaris build 57 Today we encountered 2 crashes during a ZFS send/receive operation. We tried to replicate a snapshot via the built-in send receive zfs tools. When we analyzed the resulted crash dump files we found the crash was

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Ignatich wrote: Bart Smaalders writes: Abide by the terms of the CDDL and all is well. Basically, all you have to do is make your changes to CDDL'd files available. What you do w/ the code you built (load it into MVS, ship a storage appliance, build a ZFS for Linux) is u

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Apr-07, at 9:51 AM, Al Hopper wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: On 12-Apr-07, at 11:51 PM, Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: Those who promulgate the tag for whatever motive - often agencies of Microsoft - have all foundered on the simple fact that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 12-Apr-07, at 11:51 PM, Rich Teer wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: > > > >> Those who promulgate the tag for whatever motive - often agencies > >> of Microsoft > >> - have all foundered on the simple fact that the GPL applies ONLY >

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Ignatich wrote: > Bart Smaalders writes: > > > Abide by the terms of the CDDL and all is well. Basically, all you > > have to do is make your changes to CDDL'd files available. What you > > do w/ the code you built (load it into MVS, ship a storage appliance, > > build a ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-13 Thread Boyd Adamson
On 13/04/2007, at 7:27 AM, Lori Alt wrote: I've attached the README file (as of now) so that anyone who is interested can get the flavor of what the kit will contain and how it will be used. [...] 1. Build or download a full Solaris netinstall image with bits that are build 62 or later, or

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to bind the oracle 9i data file to zfs volumes

2007-04-13 Thread Boyd Adamson
Since the entries under /dev/rdsk (for raw disk partitions) are also symlinks to /devices/../.. and have been for a very, very long time, it seems to me that the inability to support them is either a bug or the result of a misuse of the product. On 13/04/2007, at 3:30 PM, Simon wrote: Mar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 12-Apr-07, at 11:51 PM, Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: Those who promulgate the tag for whatever motive - often agencies of Microsoft - have all foundered on the simple fact that the GPL applies ONLY to MY code as licensor (*and modifications thereto*); it has a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Frank Cusack
On April 13, 2007 10:48:38 AM +0400 Ignatich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know Sun opened most if not all ZFS related patents for OpenSolaris community. So I repeat questions I asked in my first mail: 1. Are those patents limited to CDDL/OpenSolaris code or can by used in GPL/Linux too? 2. If G

Re: [zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-13 Thread Dick Davies
On 13/04/07, Lori Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sparc support is in the works. We're waiting on some other development work going on right now in the area of sparc booting in general (not specific to zfs booting, although the zfs boot loader is part of that project). I can't give you a date r

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Dick Davies
On 13/04/07, Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those who promulgate the tag for whatever motive - often agencies of Microsoft - have all foundered on the simple fact that the GPL applies ONLY to MY code as licensor (*and modifications thereto*); it has absolutely nothing to say about what yo