Re: [zfs-discuss] Instructions for ignoring ZFS write cache flushing on intelligent arrays

2006-12-15 Thread Jeremy Teo
On 12/16/06, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jason J. W. Williams wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > It would be nice if you could tell ZFS to turn off fsync() for ZIL > writes on a per-zpool basis. That being said, I'm not sure there's a > consensus on that...and I'm sure not smart enough to be a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-15 Thread Mike Seda
I use zfs in a san. I have two Sun V440s running solaris 10 U2, which have luns assigned to them from my Sun SE 3511. So far, it has worked flawlessly. Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Dave, Friday, December 15, 2006, 9:02:31 PM, you wrote: DB> Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Instructions for ignoring ZFS write cache flushing on intelligent arrays

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Elling
Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hi Jeremy, It would be nice if you could tell ZFS to turn off fsync() for ZIL writes on a per-zpool basis. That being said, I'm not sure there's a consensus on that...and I'm sure not smart enough to be a ZFS contributor. :-) The behavior is a reality we had to deal

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going

2006-12-15 Thread Darren Dunham
> >> JV> For zones: use standard upgrade, because it is not yet possible to > >> use Live > >> JV> Upgrade on a zoned system. Also, see the Zones FAQ for other > >> important > >> > >> IIRC upgrade on system with Zones won't work (it was only lately > >> integrated into Nevada). > > > > That is

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread Jeff Victor
Richard Lowe wrote: Jeff Victor wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Jeff, Friday, December 15, 2006, 9:36:48 PM, you wrote: JV> David Smith wrote: We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accompl

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Lowe
Jeff Victor wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Jeff, Friday, December 15, 2006, 9:36:48 PM, you wrote: JV> David Smith wrote: We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accomplished via patching,

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread Jeff Victor
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Jeff, Friday, December 15, 2006, 9:36:48 PM, you wrote: JV> David Smith wrote: We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accomplished via patching, or do you have to do

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS Storage Pool advice

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Kory, Friday, December 15, 2006, 6:58:53 PM, you wrote: KW> Basically then wilth data being stored on the ZFS disks (no KW> applications), and web servers logs, it would benefit us more to KW> have the 3 luns setup in one ZFS Storage Pool? If you put all 3 LUNs in one pool just make sure t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Christine, Saturday, December 16, 2006, 12:17:12 AM, you wrote: CT> Hi, CT> I guess we are acquainted with the ZFS Wikipedia? CT> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS CT> Customers refer to it, I wonder where the Wiki gets its numbers. For CT> example there's a Sun marketing slide that say

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jeff, Friday, December 15, 2006, 9:36:48 PM, you wrote: JV> David Smith wrote: >> We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like >> to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accomplished >> via patching, or do you have to do an upgrade from S1

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Dave, Friday, December 15, 2006, 9:02:31 PM, you wrote: DB> Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure DB> SAN environment? What will and will not work? ZFS is "just" a filesystem with "just" an integrated volume manager. Ok, it's more than that. The point is that if any oth

[zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-15 Thread Christine Tran
Hi, I guess we are acquainted with the ZFS Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS Customers refer to it, I wonder where the Wiki gets its numbers. For example there's a Sun marketing slide that says "unlimited snapshots" contradicted by the the first bullet: 2^48 — Number of snapshot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Correia
On Friday 15 December 2006 21:54, Eric Schrock wrote: > Ah, you're running into this bug: > > 650054 ZFS fails to see the disk if devid of the disk changes due to driver > upgrade You mean 6500545 ;) > > Basically, if we have the correct path but the wrong devid, we bail out > of vdev_disk_open()

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS Storage Pool advice

2006-12-15 Thread Anton B. Rang
Yes. Use one pool. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread Anton B. Rang
Just to make sure there's no confusion ;-), this error message was added to 'ls' after Solaris 10, and hasn't been backported yet. (Bug 4985395, *ls* does not report errors from getdents().) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss m

Re: [zfs-discuss] Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Eric Schrock
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 08:11:08PM +, Ricardo Correia wrote: > With the help of dtrace, I found out that in vdev_disk_open() (in > vdev_disk.c), the ddi_devid_compare() function was failing. > > I don't know why the devid has changed, but simply doing zpool export ; > zpool > import did th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS works in waves

2006-12-15 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Ben Rockwood wrote: > Stuart Glenn wrote: > > A little back story: I have a Norco DS-1220, a 12 bay SATA box, it is > > connected to eSATA (SiI3124) via PCI-X two drives are straight > > connections, then the other two ports go to 5x multipliers within the > > box. My needs/ho

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS works in waves

2006-12-15 Thread Stuart Glenn
On Dec 15, 2006, at 13:49, Ben Rockwood wrote: I have similar issues on my home workstation. They started happening when I put Seagate SATA-II drives with NCQ on a SI3124. I do not believe this to be an issue with ZFS. I've largely dismissed the issue as hardware caused, although I may b

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread Jeff Victor
David Smith wrote: We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accomplished via patching, or do you have to do an upgrade from S10U2 to S10U3? Also what about a system with Zones? What is the best pract

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread Torrey McMahon
David Smith wrote: We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accomplished via patching, or do you have to do an upgrade from S10U2 to S10U3? Also what about a system with Zones? What is the best pr

[zfs-discuss] How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-15 Thread David Smith
We currently have a couple of servers at Solaris 10 U2, and we would like to get to Solaris 10 U3 for the new zfs features. Can this be accomplished via patching, or do you have to do an upgrade from S10U2 to S10U3? Also what about a system with Zones? What is the best practice for upgrading

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-15 Thread Torrey McMahon
Dave Burleson wrote: Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure SAN environment? What will and will not work? From some of the information I have been gathering it doesn't appear that ZFS was intended to operate in a SAN environment. What information? ZFS works on a SAN just as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Correia
With the help of dtrace, I found out that in vdev_disk_open() (in vdev_disk.c), the ddi_devid_compare() function was failing. I don't know why the devid has changed, but simply doing zpool export ; zpool import did the trick - the pool imported correctly and the contents seem to be intact. Ex

[zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-15 Thread Dave Burleson
Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure SAN environment? What will and will not work? From some of the information I have been gathering it doesn't appear that ZFS was intended to operate in a SAN environment. Thanks, Dave ___ zfs-di

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS works in waves

2006-12-15 Thread Ben Rockwood
Stuart Glenn wrote: A little back story: I have a Norco DS-1220, a 12 bay SATA box, it is connected to eSATA (SiI3124) via PCI-X two drives are straight connections, then the other two ports go to 5x multipliers within the box. My needs/hopes for this was using 12 500GB drives and ZFS make a v

Re: [zfs-discuss] Instructions for ignoring ZFS write cache flushing on intelligent arrays

2006-12-15 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Jeremy, It would be nice if you could tell ZFS to turn off fsync() for ZIL writes on a per-zpool basis. That being said, I'm not sure there's a consensus on that...and I'm sure not smart enough to be a ZFS contributor. :-) The behavior is a reality we had to deal with and workaround, so I pos

Re: [zfs-discuss] Instructions for ignoring ZFS write cache flushing on intelligent arrays

2006-12-15 Thread Jeremy Teo
The instructions will tell you how to configure the array to ignore SCSI cache flushes/syncs on Engenio arrays. If anyone has additional instructions for other arrays, please let me know and I'll be happy to add them! Wouldn't it be more appropriate to allow the administrator to disable ZFS from

[zfs-discuss] Instructions for ignoring ZFS write cache flushing on intelligent arrays

2006-12-15 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Folks, Roch Bourbonnais and Richard Elling helped me tremendously with the issue of ZFS killing performance on arrays with battery-backed cache. Since this seems to have been mentioned a bit recently, and there are no instructions on how to fix it on Sun StorageTek/Engenio arrays, I wanted to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Correia
Not sure if this is helpful, but anyway..: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# zdb -bb pool Traversing all blocks to verify nothing leaked ... No leaks (block sum matches space maps exactly) bp count: 1617816 bp logical:91235889152 avg: 56394 bp physical: 8

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS Storage Pool advice

2006-12-15 Thread Kory Wheatley
Basically then wilth data being stored on the ZFS disks (no applications), and web servers logs, it would benefit us more to have the 3 luns setup in one ZFS Storage Pool? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS with Samba Shadow Copy

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Plese
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:33:51AM -0800, Jeb Campbell wrote: > One thing, on the home dir create, would you want to chown it to the user? Yes. I guess I made my minimal example a bit too minimal. I updated it to chown to the user and also added a 'zfs set quota' which may be fairly common as we

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread eric kustarz
Trevor Watson wrote: Anton B. Rang wrote: Were there any errors reported in /var/adm/messages, or do you see any logged via fmdump? Nothing, unfortunately. In Solaris 10, 'ls' will not print any error message if reading from a directory fails. (Fixed in Nevada.) If something damaged a dire

Re: [zfs-discuss] Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Correia
This might help diagnosing the problem: zdb successfully traversed the pool. Here's the output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# zdb -c pool Traversing all blocks to verify checksums and verify nothing leaked ... zdb_blkptr_cb: Got error 50 reading <5, 3539, 0, 12e7> -- skipping Error counts: err

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Correia
On Friday 15 December 2006 16:27, Anton B. Rang wrote: > This is $7FFF, which is MAXOFFSET_T, aka UNKNOWN_SIZE. Not sure > why...a damaged label on this device? 'format' seems to show the partition table correctly: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS with Samba Shadow Copy

2006-12-15 Thread Jeb Campbell
Ed, thanks for the great work on Samba/ZFS! I will be testing the shadow copy patch soon. One thing, on the home dir create, would you want to chown it to the user? Now if we can just get Samba+ZFS acls, we would really be rocking. Thanks again, Jeb This message posted from opensolaris.or

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread Anton B. Rang
> The implication in what you've written is that ZFS doesn't report an error if > it detects an invalid checksum. Is that correct? No, sorry I wasn't more clear. ZFS detects and reports the invalid checksum. If the checksum error occurs on a directory, this can result in an error being returned

[zfs-discuss] ZFS with Samba Shadow Copy

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Plese
For those who work with Samba, I've setup a page about the ZFS Shadow Copy VFS module for Samba that I've been working on. This module helps to make ZFS snapshots easily navigatable through a Microsoft-provided GUI in Windows which can be used to provide end users with an easy way to restore files

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread Trevor Watson
Anton B. Rang wrote: Were there any errors reported in /var/adm/messages, or do you see any logged via fmdump? Nothing, unfortunately. In Solaris 10, 'ls' will not print any error message if reading from a directory fails. (Fixed in Nevada.) If something damaged a directory (including ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread eric kustarz
Anton B. Rang wrote: Were there any errors reported in /var/adm/messages, or do you see any logged via fmdump? In Solaris 10, 'ls' will not print any error message if reading from a directory fails. (Fixed in Nevada.) If something damaged a directory (including ZFS detecting a checksum error)

[zfs-discuss] Re: Corrupted pool

2006-12-15 Thread Anton B. Rang
> found this rather strange: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# stat -L /dev/dsk/c2t0d0s1 > File: `/dev/dsk/c2t0d0s1' > Size: 9223372036854775807 Blocks: 0 IO > > Notice the size! This is $7FFF, which is MAXOFFSET_T, aka UNKNOWN_SIZE. Not sure why...a damaged label on this device?

[zfs-discuss] Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread Anton B. Rang
Were there any errors reported in /var/adm/messages, or do you see any logged via fmdump? In Solaris 10, 'ls' will not print any error message if reading from a directory fails. (Fixed in Nevada.) If something damaged a directory (including ZFS detecting a checksum error), its contents (or some

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and ISCSI

2006-12-15 Thread Rick McNeal
On Dec 15, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm interesting in ZFS redundancy when vdev's are "remote". The idea, for example, is use vdev remote mirroring as a cluster FS layer. Or puntual backup. Has anybody tried to mount an iscsi target as a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Correia
On Friday 15 December 2006 15:28, Trevor Watson wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how I might try to figure > out what's wrong? I have no idea, but I've had the same thing happen to me yesterday (see http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=20294&tstart=0 ). Wh

[zfs-discuss] Disappearing directories

2006-12-15 Thread Trevor Watson
I have a non-redundant zpool configured on one slice of my disk, and in the past week have had two directories simply disappear, in two different filesystems. The first was my email directory under my homedir (which is a ZFS fs) - I put this disappearance down to Thunderbird despite it never ha

[zfs-discuss] ZFS works in waves

2006-12-15 Thread Stuart Glenn
A little back story: I have a Norco DS-1220, a 12 bay SATA box, it is connected to eSATA (SiI3124) via PCI-X two drives are straight connections, then the other two ports go to 5x multipliers within the box. My needs/hopes for this was using 12 500GB drives and ZFS make a very large & simpl

[zfs-discuss] ZFS and ISCSI

2006-12-15 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm interesting in ZFS redundancy when vdev's are "remote". The idea, for example, is use vdev remote mirroring as a cluster FS layer. Or puntual backup. Has anybody tried to mount an iscsi target as a ZFS device?. Are machine reboots / conectivity pr

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Storage Pool advice

2006-12-15 Thread Casper . Dik
>Anyone is working to fix it? On some slower servers this is really >annoying (I know flash would 'fix' it). Not that I am aware of; it is really annoying on older hardware. Casper ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.op