Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: low disk performance

2006-09-22 Thread Rich
On 9/22/06, Gino Ruopolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update ... > > iostat output during "zpool scrub" > > extended device statistics > > w/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b > 34 2.0 395.20.10.6 0.0 34.8 87.7 > 0 100 > 3521.0 312.21.22.9 0.0 26.0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread johansen-osdev
Harley: > Old 36GB drives: > > | # time mkfile -v 1g zeros-1g > | zeros-1g 1073741824 bytes > | > | real2m31.991s > | user0m0.007s > | sys 0m0.923s > > Newer 300GB drives: > > | # time mkfile -v 1g zeros-1g > | zeros-1g 1073741824 bytes > | > | real0m8.425s > | user0m0.010

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread Harley Gorrell
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you just trying to measure ZFS's read performance here? That is what I started looking at. We scrounged around and found a set of 300GB drives to replace the old ones we started with. Comparing these new drives to the old ones: Old 36GB dr

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: low disk performance

2006-09-22 Thread Gino Ruopolo
> Update ... > > iostat output during "zpool scrub" > > extended device statistics > > w/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b > 34 2.0 395.20.10.6 0.0 34.8 87.7 > 0 100 > 3521.0 312.21.22.9 0.0 26.0 78.0 > 0 79 > 362

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: low disk performance

2006-09-22 Thread Gino Ruopolo
Update ... iostat output during "zpool scrub" extended device statistics device r/sw/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b sd34 2.0 395.20.10.6 0.0 34.8 87.7 0 100 sd3521.0 312.21.22.9 0.0 26.0 78.0 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread johansen-osdev
Harley: >I had tried other sizes with much the same results, but > hadnt gone as large as 128K. With bs=128K, it gets worse: > > | # time dd if=zeros-10g of=/dev/null bs=128k count=102400 > | 81920+0 records in > | 81920+0 records out > | > | real2m19.023s > | user0m0.105s > | sys

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Haik Aftandilian
> Haik, > > Thank you very much. 'zpool list' yeilds > NAMESIZEUSEDAVAILCAPHEALTH >ALTROOT > z 74.5G 22.9G 51.6G30%ONLINE - > > How do I confirm that /fitz is not currently a zfs > mountpoint? 'zfs mount' yeilds > > fitz/home/fitz/home

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread Harley Gorrell
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, johansen wrote: ZFS uses a 128k block size. If you change dd to use a bs=128k, do you observe any performance improvement? I had tried other sizes with much the same results, but hadnt gone as large as 128K. With bs=128K, it gets worse: | # time dd if=zeros-10g of=/de

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool always thinks it's mounted on another system

2006-09-22 Thread Rich
The history is quite simple: 1) Installed nv_b32 or around there on a zeroed drive. Created this ZFS pool for the first time. 2) Non-live upgraded to nv_b42 when it came out, zpool upgrade on the zpool in question from v2 to v3. 3) Tried to non-live upgrade to nv_b44, upgrade failed every time, so

[zfs-discuss] I'm dancin' in the streets

2006-09-22 Thread Anantha N. Srirama
Wow! I solved a tricky problem this morning thanks to Zones & ZFS integration. We have a SAS SPDS database environment running on Sol10 06/06. The SPDS database is unique in that when a table is being updated by one user it is unavailable to the rest of the user community. Our nightly update job

[zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread johansen
ZFS uses a 128k block size. If you change dd to use a bs=128k, do you observe any performance improvement? > | # time dd if=zeros-10g of=/dev/null bs=8k > count=102400 > | 102400+0 records in > | 102400+0 records out > > | real1m8.763s > | user0m0.104s > | sys 0m1.759s It's also wor

[zfs-discuss] slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread Harley Gorrell
I have set up a small box to work with zfs. (2x 2.4GHz xeons, 4GB memory, 6x scsi disks) I made one drive the boot drive and put the other five into a pool with the "zpool create tank" command right out of the admin manual. The administration experience has been very nice and most everythi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Building large home file server with SATA

2006-09-22 Thread Frank Cusack
On September 22, 2006 10:26:01 AM -0700 Alexei Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexei Rodriguez wrote: Unless they break the spec, yes, it should work. PCI Excellent to know! I will verify that the motherboard and the PCI-X cards play well together. You might run into a problem with 3.3

[zfs-discuss] Re: Building large home file server with SATA

2006-09-22 Thread Alexei Rodriguez
> Check out this blog: > > http://blogs.sun.com/PlasticPixel/entry/build_your_own > _multi_terabyte This is pretty much exactly what I want to do. These SYBA PCI cards look like they do the job, so now I need to see if I can find them locally (Bay Area) for instant gratification. If not, NewEgg

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread aric
> It sounds like you can resolve this issue by simply > booting into the new BE and deleting the /fitz > directory and then rebooting and going back into the > new BE. I say this because from your message it > sounds like the data from your zfs filesystem in > /fitz was copied to /fitz in the new B

[zfs-discuss] Re: Building large home file server with SATA

2006-09-22 Thread Alexei Rodriguez
> Alexei Rodriguez wrote: > Unless they break the spec, yes, it should work. PCI Excellent to know! I will verify that the motherboard and the PCI-X cards play well together. Thanks! Alexei This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discus

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Aric Gregson
Apologies for any confusion, but I am now able to give more output regarding the zpool fitz. unknown# zfs list --> returns list of zfs file system fitz and related snapshots unknown# zpool status pool: fitz state: ONLINE status: The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format. The pool can s

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Haik Aftandilian
> I believe I am experiencing a similar, but more > severe issue and I do > not know how to resolve it. I used liveupgrade from > s10u2 to NV b46 > (via solaris express release). My second disk is zfs > with the file > system fitz. I did a 'zpool export fitz' > > Reboot with init 6 into new env

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool always thinks it's mounted on another system

2006-09-22 Thread Eric Schrock
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 03:36:36AM -0400, Rich wrote: > ...huh. > > So /etc/zfs doesn't exist. At all. > > Creating /etc/zfs using mkdir, then importing the pool with zpool > import -f, then rebooting, the behavior vanishes, so...yay. > > Problem solved, I guess, but shouldn't ZFS be smarter abo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Aric Gregson
I believe I am experiencing a similar, but more severe issue and I do not know how to resolve it. I used liveupgrade from s10u2 to NV b46 (via solaris express release). My second disk is zfs with the file system fitz. I did a 'zpool export fitz' Reboot with init 6 into new environment, NV b46,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Darren Dunham
> > You mean pull it out? Does your hardware support hotswap? > > As far as I know D1000 support itdoes it? I'm sure the D1000 is fine with the concept. It's probably something in the software stack that is upset. I was told that a similar issue that I once had when testing was likely due

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On 9/22/06, Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22/09/06, Alf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) I mirrored 2 disks within the same D1000 and while I was putting a > big tar ball in the FS I tried to physically remove one mirror and You mean pull it out? Does your hardware support hotswap

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Roch
Alf writes: > Hi James, > I agree. with you but I think it could take a while > > cheers > > Alf > > > James C. McPherson wrote: > > Alf wrote: > >> Hi Michael, > >> I completely agree with you. I was just wondering about the > >> differences between ZFS and others VM and als

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi James, I agree. with you but I think it could take a while cheers Alf James C. McPherson wrote: Alf wrote: Hi Michael, I completely agree with you. I was just wondering about the differences between ZFS and others VM and also if I got the essence of it. Also customers could ask thes

[zfs-discuss] Info on OLTP Perf

2006-09-22 Thread Roch
http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/zfs_and_oltp Performance, Availability & Architecture Engineering Roch BourbonnaisSun Microsystems, Icnc-Grenoble Senior Performance An

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread James C. McPherson
Alf wrote: Hi Michael, I completely agree with you. I was just wondering about the differences between ZFS and others VM and also if I got the essence of it. Also customers could ask these things and if they can use ZFS filesystems like old fashion mode setting a specific size. That is part o

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zpool wrongly recognizes disk size

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Milkowski
1. But size is not checked on all devices if open() or fstat() return error - it's just skipped. So if rist device will report size larger than the rest one and you couldn't get size for all the others I guess zpool will assume the size of each vdev to be that of first device, right? 2. At th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-09-22 Thread Victor Latushkin
Sergey wrote: Please read also http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303503. So this can be a justifier for 6460889 - zil shouldn't send write-cache-flush command to busted devices - Victor ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolari

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Veritas NetBackup Support for ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no such thing as POSIX ACLs. The draft never made it to > standard. Veritas NetBackup and Legato Networker both use the Solaris > acl(2) system call to get POSIX draft ACLs from UFS. ZFS and NFSv4 use > a more modern and much more express

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Michael Schuster
Alf wrote: What do you thing about pulling out a mirror on D1000 and the completely hang of the system? I on purpose left that for others to answer - I don't know HW well enough by far :-) -- Michael Schuster +49 89 46008-2974 / x62974 visit the online support center: http

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi Michael, I completely agree with you. I was just wondering about the differences between ZFS and others VM and also if I got the essence of it. Also customers could ask these things and if they can use ZFS filesystems like old fashion mode setting a specific size. What do you thing about

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Michael Schuster
Alf wrote: Hi, Dick Davies wrote: On 22/09/06, Alf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't decide to give for example 10g to one and 20g to the other one unless I set a reservation for t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
Alf wrote: Hi all, as I am newbie in ZFS, yesterday I played with it a little bit and there are so many good things but I've notes few things I couldn't explain so. 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't de

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Veritas NetBackup Support for ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: I am using Netbackup 6.0 MP3 on several ZFS systems just fine. I think that NBU won't back up some exotic ACLs of ZFS, but if you are using ZFS like other filesystems (UFS, etc) then there aren't any issues. Hum. ACLs are not so "exotic". This IS a really BIG issu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi, Dick Davies wrote: On 22/09/06, Alf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't decide to give for example 10g to one and 20g to the other one unless I set a reservation for them. Also I

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs gets confused with multiple faults involving hot spares

2006-09-22 Thread Liam McBrien
Thanks for the quick response Eric! Nice to know I wasn't completely misunderstanding what was going on :D Cheers, Liam This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mai

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Dick Davies
On 22/09/06, Alf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't decide to give for example 10g to one and 20g to the other one unless I set a reservation for them. Also I tried to manually create

[zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi all, as I am newbie in ZFS, yesterday I played with it a little bit and there are so many good things but I've notes few things I couldn't explain so. 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't decide to give

[zfs-discuss] Re: Veritas NetBackup Support for ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
> I am using Netbackup 6.0 MP3 on several ZFS systems > just fine. I > think that NBU won't back up some exotic ACLs of ZFS, > but if you > are using ZFS like other filesystems (UFS, etc) then there aren't any issues. Hum. ACLs are not so "exotic". This IS a really BIG issue. If you are us

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-09-22 Thread Sergey
Please read also http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303503. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool always thinks it's mounted on another system

2006-09-22 Thread Rich
...huh. So /etc/zfs doesn't exist. At all. Creating /etc/zfs using mkdir, then importing the pool with zpool import -f, then rebooting, the behavior vanishes, so...yay. Problem solved, I guess, but shouldn't ZFS be smarter about creating its own config directory? - Rich On 9/21/06, Eric Schro