[zfs-discuss] Re: [xen-discuss] dom0 hangs when using an emulated ZFS volume

2006-08-03 Thread Darren J Moffat
Richard Lowe wrote: Patrick Petit wrote: Hi, Some additional elements. Irrespective of the SCSI error reported earlier, I have established that Solaris dom0 hangs anyway when a domU is booted from a disk image located on an emulated ZFS volume. Has this been also observed by other members of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 01:35:54AM -0700, Tom Simpson wrote: > Well, > > You're spot on. Turns out that our datacentre boys change the umask of root > to 0027. > > :-( Many years ago, back in the days of Solaris 2.5.1, changing root's umask to 027 caused problems if you, say, restarted the aut

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Darren Dunham
> Anton B. Rang wrote: > > I'd filed 6452505 (zfs create should set permissions on underlying > > mountpoint) so that this shouldn't cause problems in the future > > Err.. the way you have described that, seems backward to me, and violates > existing expected known solaris behaviour, not to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:50:20PM -0700, Philip Brown wrote: > > Err.. the way you have described that, seems backward to me, and violates > existing expected known solaris behaviour, not to mention logical > separation of filesystems. > zfs should not go changing the permissions on the [presum

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Philip Brown
Anton B. Rang wrote: I'd filed 6452505 (zfs create should set permissions on underlying mountpoint) so that this shouldn't cause problems in the future Err.. the way you have described that, seems backward to me, and violates existing expected known solaris behaviour, not to mention lo

[zfs-discuss] Shrinking a pool

2006-08-03 Thread Phil Coleman
Any news on when Bug-Id #6273505 regarding removing disks and shrinking a pool might feature in a release??? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinf

[zfs-discuss] Re: [xen-discuss] dom0 hangs when using an emulated ZFS volume

2006-08-03 Thread Richard Lowe
Patrick Petit wrote: Hi, Some additional elements. Irrespective of the SCSI error reported earlier, I have established that Solaris dom0 hangs anyway when a domU is booted from a disk image located on an emulated ZFS volume. Has this been also observed by other members of the community? Is th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [zones-discuss] Zone boot problems after installing patches]

2006-08-03 Thread George Wilson
Apologies for the internal URL, I'm including the list of patches for the everyone's benefit: sparc Patches * ZFS Patches o 118833-17 SunOS 5.10: kernel patch o 118925-02 SunOS 5.10: unistd header file patch o 119578-20 SunOS 5.10: FMA Patch o 119982-

[zfs-discuss] dom0 hangs when using an emulated ZFS volume

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Petit
Hi, Some additional elements. Irrespective of the SCSI error reported earlier, I have established that Solaris dom0 hangs anyway when a domU is booted from a disk image located on an emulated ZFS volume. Has this been also observed by other members of the community? Is there a known explanati

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Joseph Mocker
Eric Schrock wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:24:12AM -0700, Marion Hakanson wrote: zpool create mirror c0t2d0 c0t3d0 mirror c0t0d0s5 c0t1d0s5 Is this allowed? Is it stupid? Will performance be so bad/bizarre that it should be avoided at all costs? Anybody tried it? Yes, it's a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:24:12AM -0700, Marion Hakanson wrote: > > zpool create mirror c0t2d0 c0t3d0 mirror c0t0d0s5 c0t1d0s5 > > Is this allowed? Is it stupid? Will performance be so bad/bizarre that > it should be avoided at all costs? Anybody tried it? > Yes, it's allowed, but it's de

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Marion Hakanson
Folks, I realize this thread has run its course, but I've got a variant of the original question: What performance problems or anomalies might one see if mixing both whole disks _and_ slices within the same pool? I have in mind some Sun boxes (V440, T2000, X4200) with four internal drives. Typi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Joseph Mocker
Ahh, interesting information. Thanks folks, I'm have a better understanding of this now. --joe Jeff Bonwick wrote: is zfs any less efficient with just using a portion of a disk versus the entire disk? As others mentioned, if we're given a whole disk (i.e. no slice is specified) then we

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Darren Reed
Anton B. Rang wrote: I'd filed 6452505 (zfs create should set permissions on underlying mountpoint) so that this shouldn't cause problems in the future 6238072 might also be of interest. Darren ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opens

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Jasse Jansson
On Aug 3, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Darren Dunham wrote: And it's portable. If you use whole disks, you can export the pool from one machine and import it on another. There's no way to export just one slice and leave the others behind... I got the impression that the export command exported the con

[zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Anton B. Rang
I'd filed 6452505 (zfs create should set permissions on underlying mountpoint) so that this shouldn't cause problems in the future This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opens

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Darren Dunham
> > And it's portable. If you use whole disks, you can export the > > pool from one machine and import it on another. There's no way > > to export just one slice and leave the others behind... > > I got the impression that the export command exported the contents > of the pool, not the underlyin

Re: [zfs-discuss] StorEdge 9970V + ZFS +Fiber +Load balancing

2006-08-03 Thread Torrey McMahon
Path failover is not handled by ZFS. You would use mpxio, or other software, to take care of path failover. Pierre Klovsjo wrote: Greetings all, I have been given the task of playing around with ZFS and a StorEdge 9970 (HDS 9970) disk array. This setup will be duplicated into a production syst

Re: [xen-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs on SCSI error

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Petit
James C. McPherson wrote: Patrick Petit wrote: Darren Reed wrote: Patrick Petit wrote: Using a ZFS emulated volume, I wasn't expecting to see a system [1] hang caused by a SCSI error. What do you think? The error is not systematic. When it happens, the Solaris/Xen dom0 console keeps disp

Re: [xen-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs on SCSI error

2006-08-03 Thread James C. McPherson
Patrick Petit wrote: Darren Reed wrote: Patrick Petit wrote: Using a ZFS emulated volume, I wasn't expecting to see a system [1] hang caused by a SCSI error. What do you think? The error is not systematic. When it happens, the Solaris/Xen dom0 console keeps displaying the following message an

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Rainer Orth
Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Additionally keep in mind that outer region of a disk is much faster. > So if you want to put OS and then designate rest of the disk for > application then probably putting ZFS on a slice beginning on cyl 0 is > best in most scenarios. This has the a

Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs on SCSI error

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Petit
Darren Reed wrote: Patrick Petit wrote: Hi, Using a ZFS emulated volume, I wasn't expecting to see a system [1] hang caused by a SCSI error. What do you think? The error is not systematic. When it happens, the Solaris/Xen dom0 console keeps displaying the following message and the system h

Re: [zfs-discuss] System hangs on SCSI error

2006-08-03 Thread Darren Reed
Patrick Petit wrote: Hi, Using a ZFS emulated volume, I wasn't expecting to see a system [1] hang caused by a SCSI error. What do you think? The error is not systematic. When it happens, the Solaris/Xen dom0 console keeps displaying the following message and the system hangs. *Aug 3 11:11

[zfs-discuss] System hangs on SCSI error

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Petit
Hi, Using a ZFS emulated volume, I wasn't expecting to see a system [1] hang caused by a SCSI error. What do you think? The error is not systematic. When it happens, the Solaris/Xen dom0 console keeps displaying the following message and the system hangs. *Aug 3 11:11:23 jesma58 scsi: WARNI

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Jasse Jansson
On Aug 3, 2006, at 8:17 AM, Jeff Bonwick wrote: ZFS will try to enable write cache if whole disks is given. Additionally keep in mind that outer region of a disk is much faster. And it's portable. If you use whole disks, you can export the pool from one machine and import it on another. Th

[zfs-discuss] Re: Clones and "rm -rf"

2006-08-03 Thread Tom Simpson
Well, You're spot on. Turns out that our datacentre boys change the umask of root to 0027. :-( This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discu

[zfs-discuss] StorEdge 9970V + ZFS +Fiber +Load balancing

2006-08-03 Thread Pierre Klovsjo
Greetings all, I have been given the task of playing around with ZFS and a StorEdge 9970 (HDS 9970) disk array. This setup will be duplicated into a production system later with zones as well. Since i am new to ZFS and big storage array's such as the 9970 i have a few thoughts/questions that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Jeff Bonwick
> With all of the talk about performance problems due to > ZFS doing a sync to force the drives to commit to data > being on disk, how much of a benefit is this - especially > for NFS? It depends. For some drives it's literally 10x. > Also, if I was lucky enough to have a working prestoserv > ca

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance using slices vs. entire disk?

2006-08-03 Thread Darren Reed
Jeff Bonwick wrote: is zfs any less efficient with just using a portion of a disk versus the entire disk? As others mentioned, if we're given a whole disk (i.e. no slice is specified) then we can safely enable the write cache. With all of the talk about performance problems due to ZF