Re: [XeTeX] Diameter symbol

2010-03-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-03-16 00:31:10 +1030, David Cottenden said: Or are you looking for EMPTY SET, ∅, at U+2205? DIAMETER SIGN, ⌀, is at U+2300. The latter is the one that I am after, but I know that my main body font doesn't include it. Is there a decent font which does? I'm looking to match with Chaparr

Re: [XeTeX] Problems with fontspec and mathspec

2010-05-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-05-13 00:04:29 +0930, Tobias Schoel said: Removing the option cm-default from mathspec (which passes it to fontspec) results in no error-messages and the desired effect. Why is this? cm-default was originally intended for users of fontspec who didn't have the Latin Modern fonts in

Re: [XeTeX] unicode-math testing

2010-05-27 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-05-27 17:43:15 +0930, David Cottenden said: Mildly off topic, but does that mean that the siunitx incompatibility is solved? Unfortunately not :( But I'll take a look (and try and develop a workaround for Joseph if possible) before I send it to CTAN. It is quite a significant proble

[XeTeX] fontspec v2.0 advanced notice

2010-05-27 Thread Will Robertson
Dear all, I have just -- finally -- submitted a new version of fontspec to CTAN. It should still work with TeX Live 2009 versions of XeTeX, but not much testing has been done. More information here: http://latex-alive.tumblr.com/post/637156378/fontspec-in-tex-live-2010 Feedback very much ap

Re: [XeTeX] unicod-math testing / siunitx

2010-05-27 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-05-28 08:47:33 +0930, Ross Moore said: On 28/05/2010, at 7:45 AM, Joseph Wright wrote: On 27/05/2010 22:32, David Cottenden wrote: Note that this used the sinuitx from last November, so it might be out of date. I hope this is enough to go on - I don't remember much that far back,

Re: [XeTeX] unicod-math testing / siunitx

2010-05-27 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-05-28 14:42:24 +0930, Ross Moore said: I don't have an old siunitx.sty to try to reproduce the old bug. With just the .log file it is impossible to tell what is going on, since siunitx.sty uses \AtBeginDocument to delay a lot of stuff, and it is amongst those things where the error

Re: [XeTeX] (Off-topic) STIX Fonts

2010-05-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-05-30 23:20:07 +0930, Michael Lynch said: Does anyone know any more about the project? Has the math feature definitely been delayed until a future version? Yep, the intial release has always been about glyph coverage and kerning. As they say, OpenType features will come next. The

Re: [XeTeX] (Off-topic) STIX Fonts

2010-05-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-05-31 01:31:40 +0930, Michael Lynch said: If you were to use the STIX fonts in the meantime, given the lack of OpenType features in the STIX release, does it make more sense to use mathspec instead of unicode-math? I was under the impression that unicode-math was exclusively designed f

[XeTeX] catcodes of superscripts, etc.

2010-05-31 Thread Will Robertson
(Sorry for the cross-posting, but this seems of very minor possible interest to a few different people.) Hi Jonathan, I've just noticed that catcodes of superscript i and n have catcode 11, as do the latin & greek subscripts. (Code points appended.) I'm going to change this in unicode-math (so

[XeTeX] Fwd: New on CTAN: unicode-math

2010-06-03 Thread Will Robertson
up with the appearance of the following (which he had previously imagined to be a myth concocted by people on the net): The following information was provided by the package's contributor. Name of contribution: unicode-math Author's name: Will Robertson Location on CTAN: macros/latex/

Re: [XeTeX] Typesetting XeLaTeX and LaTeX logo under MacTeX 2009

2010-06-03 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-03 23:45:37 +0930, Iwan Setyawan said: > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/xelatex/xltxtra/xltxtra.sty > Package: xltxtra 2009/09/02 v0.5 Improvements for the "XeLaTeX" format > > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/metalogo/metalogo.sty > Package: metalogo 2009/09/04

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX and luaTeX

2010-06-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-04 22:36:14 +0930, Arthur Reutenauer said: Maybe Will wants to say a word about fontspec for LuaTeX at this point :-) Nothing more right now than to say: When you get your hands on TeX Live 2010, give it try :) W -- Subscripti

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-05 11:40:28 +0930, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu said: On the other hand, with \setmathfont{XITS Math} \setmainfont[Numbers=OldStyle,Mapping=tex-text]{STIXGeneral} I get improved STIX in Math, and the regular STIX in text with *no* Old Style figures, plus unnecesssary duplication of f

Re: [XeTeX] Solved -- Was: Re: Typesetting XeLaTeX and LaTeX logo under MacTeX 2009

2010-06-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-05 00:17:16 +0930, Iwan Setyawan said: Thanks for the solution! The new file fixed the problem. Everything seems to be working correctly now. FWIW, I (attempt to) always tag releases on Github when they're sent to CTAN, so you can always get historical versions of packages from,

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-05 14:58:22 +0930, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu said: I read your answer to my post as an admission that STIXGeneral, which covers actually all the usual 'text' blocks of the Unicode is not really suitable for text? Is it really so? My naive perhaps perception was that STIXGeneral was

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX and luaTeX

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-05 18:42:06 +0930, Pablo Rodríguez said: Which will be those differences between podTeX and LuaTeX? I can't remember where it's talked about, but I think the relevant details are that there are minor incompatibilities in kerning and hyphenation and justification when typesetting

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: On 2010-06-04 20:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched version of STIX fonts, XITS, is now available. XITS looks very neat! Are the STIX people planning to release /official/ OpenType MATH enriched versions

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-06 02:54:13 +0930, Taco Hoekwater said: Will Robertson wrote: On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: If so, to what extent would this make XITS obsolete? Depends how good a job they do :) And whether the current STIX release schedule is reliable. Judging

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-06 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-07 01:41:41 +0930, "George N. White III" said: I replaced the accent macros with unicode glyphs, e.g. Möbius, Poincar é, etc. One AMS text symbol (\S --> §) generated and undefined. Have you loaded xunicode? cmsy is still being used somehow, somewhere: Needs to be fixed. But

[XeTeX] fontspec vs polyglossia

2010-06-08 Thread Will Robertson
Dear all, The recently released version 2 of fontspec now clashes with polyglossia, because the internals of fontspec have changed. polyglossia was previously hooking into low-level macros to perform what is now provided by a fontspec programming interface. (E.g., \fontspec_if_script:nTF {latn

Re: [XeTeX] wish on \showhyphens from xltxtra

2010-06-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-14 05:24:47 +0930, Pablo Rodríguez said: trying to check whether a rather large passage in ancient Greek was properly hyphenated, I realized that it would be extremely helpful if xlxtra could provide also the spaces in \showhpyphens. I agree xltxtra's \showhyphens could be improve

Re: [XeTeX] internationalization bug in the selection of smart font features

2010-06-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-15 02:21:49 +0930, j_mach_w...@shared-files.de said: In XeTeX, you can select a smart feature by using the package =20 fontspec, for instance like this: \font\hoeflerengraved=3D"Hoefler Text/AAT:Style Options=3DEngraved Text" [snip] I don't know whether this is a bug of XeTeX or

Re: [XeTeX] wish on \showhyphens from xltxtra

2010-06-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-15 05:41:18 +0930, Pablo Rodríguez said: I'd prefer the standard way with babel and (pdf)latex. But this is not possible, this is better than the present solution. The original code is Jonathan's; I've done nothing more to it than add a wrapper to handle multiple words. One day I

Re: [XeTeX] Problem: Beamer+xelatex+\XeTeXdefaultencoding

2010-06-22 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-22 05:32:57 -0700, Jonathan Kew said: It turns out the problem can also be triggered by setting \XeTeXinputnormalization=1 (or 2) in a similar way. This post is to remind me to add this primitive to xetexref. I don't think it's in there. (I'm in SF right now, so I'm not able to d

Re: [XeTeX] Problem with unicode-math and acronym packages

2010-06-26 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-15 16:23:33 -0700, Michael Lynch said: I've come across a conflict between the unicode-math and acronym packages. Hi Michael, Thanks for reporting this. unicode-math gets its definitions from the STIX fonts, and the complete list (some 2400 symbols) has been partially invented

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX equivalent to \pdfpagewidth ?

2010-07-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-02 07:22:18 -0700, Ulrike Fischer said: But if you set \pdfpagewidth you should also set \pdfpageheight. At least on my system (miktex 2.7) xetex will otherwise \pdfpagewidth setting. \documentclass{article} \pdfpagewidth=20cm %\pdfpageheight=15cm %needed too. IMO this should be

[XeTeX] Detecting glyph change after feature selection

2010-07-07 Thread Will Robertson
Hi, I was hoping that something like this would let me detect whether a certain font feature affects the glyph obtained by inputting a certain character: \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \font\1="Adobe Jenson Pro"\1 1234567890abcdefg \number\XeTeXcharglyph`\a \number\XeTeXcharglyph`\c

[XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-12 Thread Will Robertson
Dear all, I'm trying to improve the examples in the fontspec manual. As well as improving the examples already there, I'd like to eliminate the use of any non-free fonts so that others can compile the manual without trouble. I've got a few areas I'm stuck on, since my font repertoire isn't very

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-12 18:33:54 +0930, Alexey Kryukov said: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:45:49 +0930 Will Robertson wrote: - Historical style (hist) You can try my Theano Old Style font (http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/theano.html), which has some historical forms implemented both for Greek and Latin

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-12 22:01:42 +0930, Khaled Hosny said: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 04:45:49PM +0930, Will Robertson wrote: 1. Does anyone know of any free fonts that have optical size variants? Latin Modern. Oh! It's like the purloined letter, hiding in plain sight. Thanks,

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-12 17:07:37 +0930, Yves Codet said: For the last feature you could use a Greek font which includes it, for instance "Alexander", that you can download here: http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ If you typeset the word λόγου with and without 'hist' you will see a difference. Thanks fo

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-13 03:37:13 +0930, David Perry said: This has always been available under the "Variant=0/1/2/3/..." feature but this name wasn't very obvious. In more recent versions of fontspec you can use "StylisticSet=0/1/2...". Thank you, thank you. I hadn't picked up on this. The naming con

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-13 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-13 21:50:50 +0930, David Perry said: Sure, or cv01 (like ss01) if you implement the short tags. Fontspec is unusual in that it lets (actually, requires) users to request stylistic alternates by number. Most programs present the alternates visually in a character palette. Well, t

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-14 12:38:56 +0930, Alexey Kryukov said: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0930 Will Robertson wrote: Why? If they are "historical forms" isn't it better to give them a meaningful OpenType feature name? To my mind, an attempt to provide meaningful feature names for

Re: [XeTeX] XeLaTex and Armenian

2010-07-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-14 06:40:52 +0930, Apostolos Syropoulos said: In different words, if a font includes glyphs for the Armenian script and the Latin script and the kern and liga features are defined for both scripts, then there is no reason to use different fonts. But don't you still need markup (pe

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-14 19:46:02 +0930, François Charette said: [quite off-topic] In 19th-century Rome, a prince and mathematician named Baldassare Boncompagni... P.S. I love this list. Thanks :) W -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] Free fonts for fontspec examples?

2010-07-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-14 22:24:30 +0930, "Fr. Michael Gilmary" said: Oh, good! Then, I humbly request, for the benefit of those you love on this list, that the next version of fontspec documentation have hyperlinks for ToC, etc Maybe you've already done this in more recent versions that we have her

Re: [XeTeX] \ifincsname: unexpected behaviour after nested \csname...\endcsname

2010-07-21 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-22 09:12:14 +0930, Grzegorz Murzynowski said: I noted quite unexpectedly that nesting \csname…\endcsname, results in turning |\ifincsname| false: the example above typesets \before nested csname: In csname \ after nested csname: Not in csname Is it a bug or a feature? (I

Re: [XeTeX] Pipes in XeTeX

2010-07-28 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-27 00:07:02 +0930, Florian Gilcher said: I really like the following feature of pdftex and others for development purposes: \input{|"darcs changes -s"} % print a detailed log of changes and include that into my document as a "running log" for other reviewers. Sure, it requires

Re: [XeTeX] fontspec: loading different shapes/scales of one font as different font instances?

2010-07-29 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-28 23:32:14 +0930, BPJ said: As the subject line says I wonder if it's possible with fontspec to load different shapes of the same font as different font instances? I don't understand the question, sorry. fontspec provides \newfontfamily\foo[]{} You can use this as many times as

Re: [XeTeX] Pipes in XeTeX

2010-07-29 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-07-28 22:10:49 +0930, Florian Gilcher said: Actually, pdftex in both texlive 2009 and 2010 supports it. The difference between MiKTeX and texlive is that MiKTeX has a special CLI flag for it (--enable-pipes) while pdftex on texlive checks for (--shell-escape). Thanks for the info.

Re: [XeTeX] fontspec: loading different shapes/scales of one font as different font instances?

2010-08-02 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-02 06:39:27 +0930, BPJ said: I'll still need to stick in commands/define features to get smallcaps, though... \newfontface\foosc[Letters=SmallCaps]{TeX Gyre Pagella} W -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http

[XeTeX] fontspec and xunicode

2010-08-05 Thread Will Robertson
Hey, Quick message to say that the new version of fontspec (v2.1) on GitHub now loads xunicode directly, and references to xunicode been removed entirely from euenc. If necessary, Khaled can release fontspec & euenc to CTAN while I'm away for the next couple of weeks, but otherwise if all is we

Re: [XeTeX] [lltx] fontspec and xunicode

2010-08-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 05/08/2010, at 4:58 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > Based on the previous discussion here, I think there is a general > agreement that a simple wrapper around xunicode is better than forking > it. Where the wrapper == fontspec? (As I just implemented.) Or do you mean an entirely separate package tha

Re: [XeTeX] [lltx] fontspec and xunicode

2010-08-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 05/08/2010, at 5:05 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > Well, I can not actually upload fontspec to CTAN since I am unable to > build the documentation :) (even if I got all the non-free fonts, I > still can not generate the AAT examples). I think, adding the PDFs of > the examples to the repository woul

Re: [XeTeX] [lltx] fontspec and xunicode

2010-08-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 05/08/2010, at 6:07 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > And even with the "/doc" from ctan, I still can't build the package > because `make doc` insists on generating the test files which fails > here. Bleah. Sounds like I need to revisit the makefile. You can force the tests to pass with `rm testfiles

Re: [XeTeX] unicode-math (I think) redefines \slash

2010-08-17 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-12 04:54:45 +0930, "Joel C. Salomon" said: Using all packages as of TL ’10 pretest. At one point in my document I needed an optional line-break after a slash, but blah blah overfull line UNIX\slash Linux didn’t break. Inserting the line \show\slash showed me that \

Re: [XeTeX] Checking for existence of font feature

2010-08-17 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-12 16:16:54 +0930, Khaled Hosny said: Ah, thank you. Are these features (relatively) new? Rather embarrassing not to have spotted them, but anyway… All were introduced in version 2, I think. Yep, very new. I've got a problem using these commands. Using XeTeX v0.9995.1 texlive

Re: [XeTeX] OldStyle Numbers not changeable to Lining Numbers

2010-08-17 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-17 08:23:15 +0930, Tobias Schoel said: \defaultfeatures{Numbers=OldStyle} gives medieval numbers, \addfontfeature{Numbers=Lining} afterwards keeps medieval numbers. Minimal Example: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \defaultfontfeatures{Numbers={OldStyle}} \setmainfont

Re: [XeTeX] OldStyle Numbers not changeable to Lining Numbers

2010-08-20 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-18 19:24:01 +0930, "M. Niedermair" said: Is there a way to display with fontspec all supported features of a special font? No (eventually planned), but you can use the opentype-info.tex "document" to do this. Are all standard otf feature mapped to fontspec-parameters? If not

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX documentation? (from "Checking if a font exists")

2010-08-31 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-31 00:02:43 +0930, Heiko Oberdiek said: However it's quite incomplete, two examples: * \suppressfontnotfounderror is missing * For the correct syntax of \XeTeXpdffile I had to look into the sources of XeTeX. I've added \suppressfontnotfounderror to the source: http://github.c

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX documentation? (from "Checking if a font exists")

2010-08-31 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-08-31 21:22:31 +0930, Shrisha Rao said: There is an interesting paper titled "If writers can't program and programm ers can't write, who's writing user documentation?" -- see http://portal.ac m.org/citation.cfm?id=10563.10574. Great link, thanks! Will --

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX documentation? (from "Checking if a font exists")

2010-09-01 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-01 18:34:30 +0930, Heiko Oberdiek said: The rotation is specified in degree (360 is full circle) and the rotation is counterclockwise as usual. Thanks for the info. I've added it to the project, and I'll try and write it up sooner rather than later: http://github.com/wspr/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Invalid fontname

2010-09-05 Thread Will Robertson
Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd writes: > I get a different error, using TL 2010 pre-release : > > (e:/TeX/Live/2010/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.cfg)) > ! Undefined control sequence. > \newfontinstance This command is deprecated; please use \newfontfamily or \newfontface instead.

[XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

2010-09-07 Thread Will Robertson
Hi, I'm writing up the syntax of \XeTeXpdffile and \XeTeXpicfile and I'd like someone who knows better than I do to explain the optional argument to \XeTeXpdffile to control the bounding box of the graphic: [ crop | media | bleed | trim | art ] Any volunteers? (If these are standard "ind

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

2010-09-08 Thread Will Robertson
Hi, Thanks Paul and William for the useful info. Another clarification: Crop, Bleed and Trim are standard printing terms and the usage reflects that. Media is used to describe the underlying page size to which one would likely be printing the file and art is what one wants people to see. An

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

2010-09-10 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-10 01:14:34 +0930, Heiko Oberdiek said: Who are the maintainers of xetex.def? Can they add the option `pagebox' as well? Not me, I'm afraid. The copyright lists Jonathan (Kew) and Ross Moore. W -- Subscriptions, Archive, and Lis

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

2010-09-10 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-09 16:33:55 +0930, Paul Isambert said: The pdfTeX manual states: "one may also decide in the pdf image case, which page box of the image is to be treated as a final bounding box." I guess XeTeX works in the same way. Thanks. For what it's worth, the development version of xete

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX documentation "initiative"

2010-09-11 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-12 05:11:54 +0930, Philipp Stephani said: OpenType Math is still in a very early stage in XeTeX and has so many bugs that it is not ready for production use. Thanks for the vote of confidence. And where are all these OpenType math fonts you'd like to use? W --

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX documentation initiative - a website

2010-09-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-12 19:29:31 +0930, Michiel Kamermans said: I've put up a wiki with a highly tentative structure on http://wiki.xelatex.org/doku.php - sadly xetex.org is taken by some domain hiking service so there's no obvious xetex.org counterpart to be had... Looks great so far. If I could tent

Re: [XeTeX] Fontspec: Historic not Historical Ligatures?

2010-09-13 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-13 00:04:53 +0930, David Perry said: On 9/12/2010 10:05 AM, Kevin Klement wrote: Wouldn't it be possible, however, to alias one to the other so that both worked? That would make sense, unless something else is going on here that we don't know about; Will can perhaps speak to this

Re: [XeTeX] wspr's realscripts & updated xelatex templates

2010-09-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-15 04:19:40 +0930, Khaled Hosny said: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:44:06AM -0400, Joel C. Salomon wrote: I’ve not been following the recent back-and-forth regarding which XɘLaTeX packages are now obsolete, and which are compatible with LuaLaTeX. Right now my personal style files fil

Re: [XeTeX] wspr's realscripts & updated xelatex templates

2010-09-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-16 00:01:32 +0930, Ulrike Fischer said: Am Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:49:40 +0300 schrieb Khaled Hosny: Fontspec loads xunicode for luatex Only the version from github. The "official" version on CTAN 2010/08/01 v2.0c doesn't load xunicode yet. Oops, thanks. Need to get that updated

Re: [XeTeX] wspr's realscripts & updated xelatex templates

2010-09-15 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-15 17:50:42 +0930, David Cottenden said: On 15/09/10 09:08, Will Robertson wrote: - Defines the dubiously useful commands \vfrac - for vulgar fractions with fontspec \namedglyph - to access font glyphs by name #4(a,b) are probably never used. No! Don't remove

Re: [XeTeX] \...@nameuse question

2010-09-17 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-17 19:44:54 +0930, Michiel Kamermans said: \if\value{iclass}<\...@nameuse{#1class} These lines should be \ifnum, at the very least. You might also want to terminate them with \relax: \if\value{iclass}<\...@nameuse{#1class}\relax I haven't checked the rest of the code

Re: [XeTeX] Separate fonts for Latin and Greek with fontspec?

2010-09-17 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-18 03:17:21 +0930, "Fr. Michael Gilmary" said: Gareth Hughes wrote: I've been using that version of kashida.sty with Syriac definitions for some time now. Are there any plans to make it an official CTAN package, or part of one? Well, I haven't a clue how to do that. Simply c

Re: [XeTeX] Let me get it straight...

2010-09-19 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-19 00:27:40 +0930, Herbert Schulz said: Right now I'm loading xltxtra alone (since it loads xunicode and fontspec). In some of my older documents I am loading all three. With an updated fontspec (as of version ?) under xelatex which of the three packages do I need to be loading. J

Re: [XeTeX] Let me get it straight...

2010-09-19 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-19 21:02:27 +0930, Herbert Schulz said: Thanks! That's the information I was wanting. Do you have version numbers after which this is all true? Are the bits and pieces released to CTAN and now in TeX Live? Everything is now on CTAN but not quite yet in TeX Live I think. But sinc

Re: [XeTeX] If font under fontspec

2010-09-20 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-21 09:39:51 +0930, Gareth Hughes said: Peter Dyballa wrote: Am 20.09.2010 um 20:44 schrieb Gareth Hughes: I'm asking for a more useful implementation that checks whether a certain font is in use now Wouldn't it be sufficient to check what \{rm,sf,tt}default are set to? Perh

Re: [XeTeX] Redefining \em and \emph

2010-09-22 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-23 09:07:39 +0930, Gareth Hughes said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As I understand it, the line about redefining emphasis and inner emphasis at the end of section 6.3 of the fontspec documentation XETEX users will need to load the xltxtra package before the advic

Re: [XeTeX] Extra trailing space in IPA font with xltxtra

2010-09-23 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-23 20:38:14 +0930, Paolo Matteucci said: Therefore *maybe", whatever approach is used to address this bug, the same "fix" should be applied to fontspec, too...? The \scantokens is somewhere in tipa.sty or its accompanying packages. But the problem only occurs if fontspec is loade

Re: [XeTeX] Redefining \em and \emph

2010-09-23 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-23 22:20:05 +0930, Gareth Hughes said: Will Robertson wrote: On 2010-09-23 09:07:39 +0930, Gareth Hughes said: I'm looking at ways to redefine emphasis within Syriac text (seeing as slanted text is not traditional or pretty). I've got most of the redefinitions workin

Re: [XeTeX] Redefining \em and \emph

2010-09-26 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-25 09:33:20 +0930, Gareth Hughes said: Will Robertson wrote: It doesn't seem to. In that case I'd write something like \let\oldemph\emph \renewcommand\emph{% \...@rtl \expandafter\aemph \else \expandafter\oldelse \fi } I still can't figure out how to do this fo

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

2010-09-26 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-27 02:14:03 +0930, Drébon said: \usepackage{pxfonts} \usepackage{txfonts} \usepackage[osf,sc]{mathpazo} You just changed the math/text font three times... \usepackage[scaled=0.85]{beramono} \usepackage[euler-digits]{eulervm} \usepackage{helvet} ...and this is the second change

Re: [XeTeX] Small caps bug in fontspec

2010-09-29 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-29 15:50:29 +0930, Andrew Moschou said: It seems setting Numbers=OldStyle breaks \scshape. This example uses Sabon, but it happens with other fonts too. My fontspec version is 2.1a. Hi Andrew, Sorry for this, and thanks for reporting it. The bug fix (2.1b) is on its way to CTAN.

Re: [XeTeX] unicode-math problem

2010-09-29 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-29 21:29:22 +0930, Herbert Schulz said: Had another update of unicode-math this morning and have no problems compiling the file here. Right, the two packages were out of sync for a couple of days. It should all be working now. Sorry for the inconvenience. (In the future I need

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

2010-09-29 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-30 07:10:07 +0930, Philipp Stephani said: [Beginners] don't know what a text file or a text editor is, they have never heard the word "Unicode", and they have never used a programming language before. What they need are step- by-step instructions that tell them, in simple words, h

Re: [XeTeX] Problem with footnotes and xltxtra

2010-09-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-30 18:13:50 +0930, Dominik Wujastyk said: A quick trial of this shows that the problem goes away when the "no-sscript" argument is removed from xltxtra (and the "minimal" class is replaced by "article" to get the \footnotesize command). Next thing to do (not by me) is debug [no-ssc

Re: [XeTeX] Problem with footnotes and xltxtra

2010-09-30 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-09-30 19:25:45 +0930, Will Robertson said: In terms of debugging the problem, I haven't worked out what causes the error but I know how to fix it. There seems to be a strange interaction with \DeclareRobustCommand and the xparse package which we'll need to sort out. Sc

Re: [XeTeX] Undefined control sequence

2010-10-02 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-03 00:08:20 +0930, Cesar Romani said: I'm using xelatex from TexLive 2008 on Win XP. \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{xunicode} \usepackage{xltxtra} \usepackage{polyglossia} I'm afraid your example works correctly for me. There has been some development on these packages since

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

2010-10-03 Thread Will Robertson
Am 03.10.2010 um 15:52 schrieb Will Robertson: > On 03/10/2010, at 11:41 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote: > >> Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry: >> >>> If I omit the option, or use 'xetex' in place of 'hypertex' or use the >>> dr

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

2010-10-03 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-04 11:57:27 +1030, "David J. Perry" said: Ross and Will, So the first question should be what is the version of XeTeX that MikTeX is providing. And is David actually using that, or still an earlier version, as I was on a Mac. If the primitive is not there, then the latest versions

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

2010-10-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-05 05:21:21 +1030, Apostolos Syropoulos said: written in WEB, which is a Pascal-based system + documentation; it is often converted to C for compilation. And TeX itself doesn't look anything like LISP to me, but maybe I'm missing s.t.? (Like a CAR and a CDR and...) Several ye

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

2010-10-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-05 09:07:07 +1030, Kamal Abdali said: The math symbols in XITS seem rather small. When trying to increase XITS character size with the Scale option, I noticed that math accents get amplified too much, and get placed too far from the subject symbols. The example below shows that by c

Re: [XeTeX] Math italics with unicode-math.

2010-10-09 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-10 08:08:20 +1030, Khaled Hosny said: fontspec Warning: Font 'Linux Libertine O' does not contain script 'Math'. I guess Libertine isn't a math font. Right, and this warning should be harmful as regard of this context (it basically means you want get proper radicals or large oper

Re: [XeTeX] Primes and unicode-math.

2010-10-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-12 06:31:36 +1030, Khaled Hosny said: Put the line \setmathfont{xits-math.otf} AFTER the line \setmathfont[range=\mathit/{latin,Latin,greek,Greek}]{Linux Libertine O Italic} I'm not sure this would be side effect free, at least in XeTeX since many math typesetting parameters are

Re: [XeTeX] New environment fails in float

2010-10-12 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-12 01:20:09 +1030, Gareth Hughes said: I'm having problems with an environment definition. Using the xparse and etoolbox packages, I have created the environment syriacpoem in my .sty file. Hi Gareth, This appears to be a bug with nested environments in xparse. I've reported the

Re: [XeTeX] Error with latest expl3?

2010-10-16 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-17 02:17:37 +1030, Herbert Schulz said: On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:31 AM, enrico.grego...@univr.it wrote: \expandafter\let\csname intexpr_if_even:nTF\expandafter\endcsname \csname int_if_even:nTF\endcsname That certainly fixes things here. Kind of ugly though. :-) Oops, my fau

Re: [XeTeX] bug in fontspec?

2010-10-18 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-19 03:30:24 +1030, Pablo Rodríguez said: as Ulrike Fischer has noticed (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2010-October/018895.html), fontspec enters in a loop italics are defined as slanted: \def\itdefault{sl} This problem, funnily enough, has existed pretty much forever. I

Re: [XeTeX] bug in fontspec?

2010-10-19 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-19 22:55:23 +1030, Herbert Schulz said: How long in testing before you submit the update to CTAN/TeX Live? Who knows :) I'm not sure what precendent to set here. I don't exactly want to bother the CTAN people for every minor bug fix, but I don't want to wait too long before relea

Re: [XeTeX] Problems with spacing in math formulae

2010-10-19 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-20 07:52:09 +1030, Ross Moore said: On 20/10/2010, at 6:14 AM, Christian Pech wrote: I already reported this problem a week ago, but maybe the message got lost. The following latex-file produces wrong spacing when compiled with xelatex, I confirm the bad layout, as reported belo

Re: [XeTeX] Problems with spacing in math formulae

2010-10-19 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-20 09:13:36 +1030, Khaled Hosny said: I can reproduce it and while ago have seen it in a posted sample somewhere on the web. I don't know what is special about Euler's display summation to trigger such a bug (if it is actually a bug), Strange, with a little more effort I can now

Re: [XeTeX] Problems with spacing in math formulae

2010-10-20 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-20 19:09:52 +1030, Taco Hoekwater said: On 10/20/2010 10:35 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: Very useful! Knowing that there were a working version I was able to track this down (with some git bisect magic), the culprit is the DisplayOperatorMinHeight math parameter, while ago I increased

Re: [XeTeX] WordSpace in SizeFeatures

2010-10-27 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-10-27 22:11:47 +1030, Vadim Radionov said: Is it possible to set different interword space for different font sizes? SizeFeatures={ {Size=-10,LetterSpace=-10,WordSpace={20,1,1}}, {Size=10-,WordSpace={1.1,1,1}}} I am afraid that this is a limitation in LaTeX's font selection mechanis

Re: [XeTeX] Font variant selection in Fontspec/Mathspec options incomplete

2010-11-11 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-11-10 19:09:33 +1030, Christian Schmidt said: Selecting a font via the extension option/feature from Truetype or Opentype font files and, at the same time, specifying the corresponding font varian ts through the other options, fontspec/mathspec is not able to set the vari ant "Bold It

Re: [XeTeX] problem with package versions?

2010-11-14 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-11-15 10:18:56 +1030, Adam McCollum said: When I run XeLaTeX on a file (I've tried several), I get this error message. [snip] By the way, I've run TeX Live and updated everything. You must be using TeX Live 2009. The current version is TeX Live 2010, and you can't upgrade from the f

Re: [XeTeX] Getting vinculum in fractions with Asana Math and unicode-math when compiled with xelatex

2011-01-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2011-01-05 11:50:55 +1030, Paul Vojta said: I've attached a patch that fixes the problem, seems not to break anything else, and seems reasonable. It also fixes: problems with segfaults with delimiters (xe-test-delim.tex) problems with incorrect rendering of radicals (xe-t

Re: [XeTeX] xdv2pdf vs xdvipdfmx

2011-01-29 Thread Will Robertson
On 2011-01-21 18:57:06 +1030, Oleg Parashchenko said: what is the state of xdv2pdf? Is it ok to use this driver in production environment, or are there any issues? What xdvipdfmx provides, what xdv2pdf can not do? It's probably safe to say that xdvipdfmx is the more supported option these d

[XeTeX] Testing unicode-math

2011-01-29 Thread Will Robertson
Dear all, After many months of work largely by Philipp Stephani, I've finally got around to fixing a couple of niggling bugs and packaging up a new release for unicode-math. In general there are no large changes, but I'd still like to make a test release of the package available in case I've ac

Re: [XeTeX] \XeTeXglyphbounds question

2011-02-07 Thread Will Robertson
On 2011-02-04 23:57:38 +1030, Jonathan Kew said: On 4 Feb 2011, at 05:41, Adam Twardoch (List) wrote: I could use: \XeTeXcharglyph`f but this only gives me the glyph ID of the *default* glyph for the "f" character. Yet since the font uses contextual alternates, I may end up having any alter

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