Re: [XeTeX] \botmark and \firstmark not working for me ...

Selon Ron Aaron : > On Sunday 01 August 2010 06:23:19 Ron Aaron wrote: > > On Sunday 01 August 2010 00:47:59 John Was wrote: > > I wonder if my problem stems from the "mark" being > > inside a vbox? If that's the problem, I don't know how I would get around > > it ... > > Argggh! That is exactly

Re: [XeTeX] \botmark and \firstmark not working for me ...

Selon Philipp Stephani : > > Am 01.08.2010 um 09:28 schrieb Ron Aaron: > > > On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:16:27 Paul Isambert wrote: > > > >> Indeed, the \mark won't end up on the main vertical list. In the latest > >> TUGboat issue, Hans Hagen writes

Re: [XeTeX] \botmark and \firstmark not working for me ...

Selon Ron Aaron : > On Sunday 01 August 2010 12:41:35 Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > It is not like they are enemies or even commercial competitors, it is > > all TeX and, if one's need can be achieved by this or that engine, then > > be it. Not everything can be done with traditional TeX techniques, n

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

I guess a look at the PDF reference might be a good idea: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/PDF32000_2008.pdf Especially section 14.11.2 (pages 627-628) where those terms are defined for PDF documents. Perhaps a word to ConTeXt's people too, since they're generally oriented toward "real-li

Re: [XeTeX] Change fonts for different environment/commands

Selon Wilfred van Rooijen : > Hi all, > > > But why ?  What exactly do you dislike about the use > > of > > sans serif for headings ?  To my mind, and in a > > scientific > > as opposed to artistic context, sans serif headings with > > serif prose seem absolutely normal and fine. > > The age-old d

Re: [XeTeX] Change fonts for different environment/commands

Selon Philipp Stephani : > > Am 08.09.2010 um 08:46 schrieb Wilfred van Rooijen: > > > Hi all, > > > >> But why ? What exactly do you dislike about the use > >> of > >> sans serif for headings ? To my mind, and in a > >> scientific > >> as opposed to artistic context, sans serif headings with >

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

Selon Will Robertson : > Hi, > > Thanks Paul and William for the useful info. Another clarification: > > > Crop, Bleed and Trim are standard printing terms and the usage reflects > > that. Media is used to describe the underlying page size to which one > > would likely be printing the file and art

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeXpdffile media box etc

Selon Heiko Oberdiek : > On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 09:03:55AM +0200, Paul Isambert wrote: > > > \pdfpagesattr{ > > /CropBox [llx lly urx ury] > > /MediaBox ... > > ... > > } > > NO, don't add /MediaBox. It's set by pdfTeX and can be confi

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX documentation "initiative"

Selon John Was : > Hello > > I haven't been following the proposals in detail but it seems to me that the > suggestions are overwhelmingly weighted in favour of XeLaTeX users - which > is fine as long as someone is working on a plain XeTeX manual of comparable > scope. I don't use (Xe)LaTeX mysel

Re: [XeTeX] OTF font question

I use FontMatrix, which I find very good. Best, Paul Selon Manfred Lotz : > There are OTF fonts where the their documentation states that certain > Unicode ranges are partially supported. However, the documentation > doesn't tell what exactly is supported. > > Is there a tool available that is a

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Le 02/10/2010 21:22, Alan Munn a écrit : On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote: Am 30.09.2010 um 09:36 schrieb Tobias Schoel: Hi, there are three kinds of people who should learn TeX&Co: - those who absolutely need TeX, because no other system let's them produce the documents

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Le 02/10/2010 22:36, Philipp Stephani a écrit : Am 02.10.2010 um 21:52 schrieb Paul Isambert: Le 02/10/2010 21:22, Alan Munn a écrit : On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote: Am 30.09.2010 um 09:36 schrieb Tobias Schoel: Hi, there are three kinds of people who should learn

Re: [XeTeX] Tables

Le 03/10/2010 00:29, Mike Maxwell a écrit : On 10/2/2010 3:52 PM, Paul Isambert wrote: And I'll add: printing a corpus with annotations that don't show up but are fed to LuaTeX for statistics, and returned as tables. What I'm doing right now. Interesting. We're producin

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 13:34, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Arthur Reutenauer > wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 10:15:34PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: > Its Persian not Farsi. Farsi is the fake name that arabs give to our

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 13:51, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : We say Parsi, the international community says Persian. History says Persian, where does Farsi come from? As I said before, you should read some history before commenting unwisely? It's not a matter of history, it's a matter of phonetics. "Farsi" c

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 14:12, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : We say Parsi and that is it. Sorry but your arguments are nonsense. As you wish. Except you said "Persian" :) Paul -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listi

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 14:16, Tobias Schoel a écrit : That's not phonetics, that's politics. Nothing to do with Persian/Farsi. Language has always been an important weapon in politics. People think in the languages they speak. If a language lacks something, then the thinking of the speakers of this

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 14:52, Tobias Schoel a écrit : I'm no linguist. Sorry if I have uttered old and overcome thoughts. Let's say they're controversial at best. But not false, mind you: just very hard to assess. As far as I know, languages do lack things indeed: some phonems, interpunctuation, gr

Re: [XeTeX] How could xetex find texlive fonts on a mac?

Le 04/10/2010 06:25, 德柳 邓 a écrit : I'am a newer for texlive . I have installed texlive 2010 universal-darwin under command line for mac (not Mactex). -- 1. I tried to compile

Re: [XeTeX] How could xetex find texlive fonts on a mac?

Le 04/10/2010 16:35, ami a écrit : > Thanks for your advises . I am new to Tex and i am interesting in it . > > Good luck then, and have fun! And don't hesitate when you have a question: people on this list, and on others as well, generally answer them all, no matter whether it requires advanced w

Re: [XeTeX] Bidipoem for dialogue poetry

Le 10/10/2010 00:48, Gareth Hughes a écrit : Gareth Hughes wrote: As you can see from my attached example, the persona is included as a part of the first hemistich, but to make the lines look nice it is also included in the following three hemistiches within \phantom{} commands. I also need to

Re: [XeTeX] Bidipoem for dialogue poetry

Le 10/10/2010 14:16, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit : Paul, in which dialect(s) of TeX does \quitvmode exist ? Paul Isambert wrote: \def\persona#1{% \quitvmode\llap{\hbox to {#1\hfil}}% } Oh, right. Gareth, you should use \leavevmode instead of \quitvmode, which is a p

Re: [XeTeX] Bidipoem for dialogue poetry

Le 10/10/2010 16:51, Gareth Hughes a écrit : Does anyone have any thoughts how line numbers might be handled in this bidipoem environment? None of the usual packages that provide line numbering play nicely, and I can't work out from the code how best to do it. That one is harder. Line number

Re: [XeTeX] Bidipoem for dialogue poetry

Le 10/10/2010 17:26, Gareth Hughes a écrit : Paul Isambert wrote: That one is harder. Line number are no simple matter with traditional TeX. Question: does bidipoem starts a new paragraph with every line? Then something might be doable with \everypar. Just try this in the poem environment

Re: [XeTeX] Bidipoem for dialogue poetry

Le 12/10/2010 01:53, Gareth Hughes a écrit : Paul Isambert wrote: Ok, the following works on your file, but I don't know how robust it is: %%% \newcount\LineNumber \newcount\templinenumber \newdimen\linenumberskip \linenumberskip=6em \chardef\linestep=2 \def\poemlinenumber{% \ad

Re: [XeTeX] Strange hyphenation with polyglossia in French

I can't answer your main question (about hyphenation after an apostrophe), but there are some points I can explain. Le 16/10/2010 11:47, Cyril Niklaus a écrit : In making the small version I include here, I also noticed something surprising: the hyphenation changed depending on the length of

Re: [XeTeX] Localized XeLaTeX: was Greek XeLaTeX

Le 16/10/2010 16:43, Herbert Schulz a écrit : On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Another way is to use the string library from lua to replace μμ with mm: Is "μμ" really the Greek abbreviation for millimetres ? If so, how do the Gr

Re: [XeTeX] Localized XeLaTeX: was Greek XeLaTeX

Le 17/10/2010 11:10, Ulrike Fischer a écrit : Am Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:24:44 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Would this replace every occurence of "im" in the input? Including the "im" in \scratchdimen, the "im" in the second 1im and the "im" in immens? Yes. This is why I said that the solutio

Re: [XeTeX] Strange hyphenation with polyglossia in French

Le 17/10/2010 11:29, Cyril Niklaus a écrit : In the meantime, the "solution" I used was to change fonts… That basically disables hyphenation for this word, like would \/. I noticed that if I wrote l'in\-formation, it would then hyphenate at the suggested point and not after the apostrophe.

Re: [XeTeX] [OT] character encoding ideas [was: Re: Strange hyphenation with polyglossia in French]

Le 21/10/2010 18:18, Arthur Reutenauer a écrit : I've watched "House" with pleasure for a number of years. It's taken me until Series 5, which I'm just catching up on, to realize that House's boss is "Dr Cuddy" not "Dr Cutty". The actors say /cuddy/ which I assumed was American for British /cu

Re: [XeTeX] Auto Font and Language Package in XeTeX

Selon Arthur Reutenauer : > > Incidentally, does anyone know whether there is a LuaTeX version of the > > XeTeXintercharclass behaviour that would let this package be rewritten > > for LuaTeX with minimal effort? > > Paul Isambert has written code to that effect, but I&

Re: [XeTeX] Unexplained behavior

Le 15/01/2011 19:44, Bogdan Butnaru a écrit : Hello! I encounter funny behavior when compiling a document; small example below my signature. If you look very carefully, the line that begins with \sepdash is typset slightly farther away from the line above it than the other two lines are. I have

Re: [XeTeX] Unexplained behavior

Le 15/01/2011 22:44, Bogdan Butnaru a écrit : On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 20:01, Paul Isambert wrote: \thinspace is a \kern, which adapts to the mode it is in. What you want is an horizontal space, but what happens is a vertical one, because the \kern occurs in vertical mode (TeX is between

Re: [XeTeX] Kerning flaw with MinionPro & XeTex

Le 07/02/2011 19:10, Peter Dyballa a écrit : Am 07.02.2011 um 18:16 schrieb Khaled Hosny: I'm rather jobless Sounds Egyptian... Are you trying to make some geopolitical statement or just wielding disparaging remarks, Peter? Paul -- Subsc

Re: [XeTeX] Running out of memory in XeSearch while trying to XeIndex on largish latex files.

Le 09/02/2011 20:52, Michael Joyner a écrit : Good Afternoon, Help! :) We are trying to use XeIndex/XeSearch on what we consider to be some medium/small documents and are getting the following error: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=8]. \pdfstringdef ... \let \GenericErr

Re: [XeTeX] Running out of memory in XeSearch while trying to XeIndex on largish latex files.

Le 10/02/2011 02:55, Heiko Oberdiek a écrit : On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 10:17:54PM +0100, Paul Isambert wrote: Le 09/02/2011 20:52, Michael Joyner a écrit : We are trying to use XeIndex/XeSearch on what we consider to be some medium/small documents and are getting the following error

Re: [XeTeX] Running out of memory in XeSearch while trying to XeIndex on largish latex files.

Le 10/02/2011 04:39, Ross Moore a écrit : Hi Michael, and Heiko, On 10/02/2011, at 1:49 PM, Michael Joyner wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ross Moore wrote: See how large you can set the "save size" parameter. Multiply by 10, or 100, or 1000... . I'd say you are exploring to the b

Re: [XeTeX] Running out of memory in XeSearch while trying to XeIndex on largish latex files.

Le 10/02/2011 15:58, Michael Joyner a écrit : On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Paul Isambert <mailto:zappathus...@free.fr>> wrote: Le 10/02/2011 04:39, Ross Moore a écrit : Hi Michael, and Heiko, On 10/02/2011, at 1:49 PM, Michael Joyner wrote: On

Re: [XeTeX] xeindex bug. index entry mangles processing of section and chapter environments.

Le 15/02/2011 00:00, Michael Joyner a écrit : Good afternoon all, I having gotten much further along with the xeindexing, but have run into a new problem. I have created and inserted below a test document showing an un-numbered section getting mangled. What I really find strange is that th

Re: [XeTeX] OT features

Le 15/02/2011 11:14, Georg A. Duffner a écrit : Am 2011-02-15 04:38, schrieb David J. Perry: I had the exact same problem last weekend. I constructed an OT feature to replace a long s with a regular s if followed by a comma, period, space, etc. The longs-space combination did not work. I am not

Re: [XeTeX] xeindex bug. index entry mangles processing of section and chapter environments.

Le 15/02/2011 19:03, Michael Joyner a écrit : On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Paul Isambert <mailto:zappathus...@free.fr>> wrote: Nice, you've just discovered a bug in XeSearch. Bleck. I don't consider it nice. Why am I the one always finding these bugs that

Re: [XeTeX] Character Variants

Le 27/03/2011 22:07, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca a écrit : On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Peter Dyballa wrote: U+8FBB exists in this and quite a few other fonts, but which font has U+E0100? (And since this character is outside the BMP, the Basic Multilingual Pane, it won't be some usual font.) U+E0100 is no

Re: [XeTeX] xetex

If I'm not mistaken, XeTeX = X + eTeX, with X for Mac OS X (XeTeX's original intended platform), and eTeX being the well-known Extended TeX (since XeTeX takes over eTeX). As for TeX... Of course, the symmetry also emphasizes bidirectional writing, as once TeX--XeT did. Best, Paul Le 10/04/

Re: [XeTeX] Fonts : test

Le 08/06/2011 13:14, Jean-Louis Cordonnier a écrit : In order to choose the right fontface for my document, I want to make a test. My purpose is to get a document like this : Font 1 : abcde... Font 2 : abcde... Font 3 : abcde Is it possible to do this in a short way ? If I understand you corr

Re: [XeTeX] [Off-topic] Persian versus Farsi

Le 11/06/2011 16:23, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : The problem is that some people think they are the center of the universe and the rest have only one purpose: to harm them! Can you name one single movie of Hollywood which was not offensive to Persians? Err, Terminator? or Let me

Re: [XeTeX] Loading fonts from a common server or http URL

Le 22/06/2011 09:28, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit : Venkatesan. S.K. (TNQ) wrote: It is more a *fontspec* question and may be it has wider scope... Is it possible to load fonts from http URLs? i.e., can I do this: \fontspec{http://www.ctan.org/public/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf}. [...]

Re: [XeTeX] analogues of \pdfobj?

Le 30/08/2011 12:19, Oleg Parashchenko a écrit : Hello again, On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:32:14 +0200 Heiko Oberdiek wrote: ... * \pdfobj useobjnum/pdfobj: Objects can be constructed by \special{pdf:object ...} \special{pdf:put ...} \special{pdf:close ...} \special{pdf:stream

Re: [XeTeX] Odd hyphenations

Le 30/09/2011 16:26, NEAL DELMONICO a écrit : Greetings All, I am having some problems with hyphenation in English and wonder if I am missing something important in my header file. The hyphenation program seems to be misfiring since it gives the following hyphenations: n-ear, s-mall, b-lissf

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

Le 30/10/2011 06:25, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : XeTeX font support is heaps better and stable than what luaotfload package offers and I guess that is why many users still like using xetex instead luatex. I personally believe that it is a bad practice that luaotfload just copies ConTeXt code, it

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

Le 30/10/2011 13:20, George N. White III a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > Writing an OpenType layout engine is not a simple task, and you can > judge from the many years it toke FOSS community to have a really good > one, HarfBuzz (the name luaotfload is mislea

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

Le 30/10/2011 17:20, Petr Tomasek a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:29:18PM +0100, Paul Isambert wrote: Le 30/10/2011 13:20, George N. White III a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: Writing an OpenType layout engine is not a simple task, and you can judge from

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX, XeTeXpicfile, and counter-intuitive behaviour

Le 01/12/2011 12:49, Philip TAYLOR a écrit : Problem 2 (completely intractable) : XeTeX claims to be unable to find "TAR-2.pdf", despite the fact that it is in the same directory as "IMG_2206.JPG" and that both filenames were inserted by initiating a file rename, copying the current name, and the

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX, XeTeXpicfile, and counter-intuitive behaviour

Le 01/12/2011 13:13, Philip TAYLOR a écrit : P.S. But what about the fact that the \vfill \eject is ignored if no text precedes the \XeTeXpicfile ? It seems to be a particular case of the situation where a \special is alone on its page. I don't know what TeX is supposed to do in such situatio

Re: [XeTeX] Preventing a line break at a given set of characters

Shiva Shankar a écrit: > > Hi, > > Is it possible to prevent the linebreak at a given set of characters? > for example TeX will never break a line at fullstop(.) I mean > fullstop alone never goto next line (unless there is a space behind > it). Similarly for comma(,), semicolon(;) etc. You can

[XeTeX] Bad handling of lookup subtables.

Hello all, I use XeTeX to do some testing on fonts. If I'm not mistaken, given a lookup with subtables, the latter are tried one after the other until one of them identifies a proper input and is applied. In other words, only one subtable should be applied for a given lookup. However, it seems to

Re: [XeTeX] Bad handling of lookup subtables.

Jonathan Kew a écrit: > > This sounds like http://bugs.icu-project.org/trac/ticket/7753 Indeed; I didn't know about the tracker. Sorry for the noise! Best, Paul -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/lis

Re: [XeTeX] How to add ExtGState to xdvipdfmx?

Zdenek Wagner a écrit: > > Hello, > > I have an ExtGState defined as: > > \special{pdf: object @opoff << /Type /ExtGState /op false /OP false /OPM 0 > >>} > \special{pdf: object @opon << /Type /ExtGState /op true /OP true /OPM 1 >>} > \special{pdf: object @extgs << /GSko @opoff /GSop @op

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

Yannis Haralambous a écrit: > But there are also political issues: LuaTeX is developed by a team focusing > on ConTeXt. > LaTeX users will always be neglected, at least that is the feeling I have > (Taco is very kind > and helpful but he is paid for a specific task, and LaTeX is not part of it).

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

Ulrike Fischer a écrit: > > Am Sat, 4 Aug 2012 09:38:44 +0200 schrieb Paul Isambert: > > > >> But there are also political issues: LuaTeX is developed by a > >> team focusing on ConTeXt. LaTeX users will always be neglected, > >> at least that is th

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

Ulrike Fischer a écrit: > > Am Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:51:41 +0200 schrieb Paul Isambert: > > > >>>> But there are also political issues: LuaTeX is developed by a > >>>> team focusing on ConTeXt. LaTeX users will always be neglected, > >>>&g

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

Ulrike Fischer a écrit: > > Am Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:52:25 +0200 schrieb Paul Isambert: > > > >> I personally don't care much *how* e.g. open type fonts are handled. > >> The "typesetting engine" can use an external library, lua-files, or > >>

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

Martin Schröder a écrit: > > 2012/8/8 Ulrike Fischer : > > Two years ago I would have said this too. But now I doubt it. > > Opentype fonts are much more complicated that some expandafters or > > the latex output routine. Also - more importantly - I see none of > > the needed discussion going on.

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

Philip TAYLOR a écrit: > > > Paul Isambert wrote: > > > Ulrike Fischer a écrit: > > >> Sorry, but can you imagine that a typesetting engine can thrive > >> which must say on its webpage "I'm a wonderful tex engine based on > >> unico

Re: [XeTeX] free (single) fonts from Linotype/Monotype merger announcement

Selon William Adams : > This from the InDesign list: > > > Free download of fonts expires today, April 3. > > Linotype/Monotype has put together a couple of font packs to download. See > article and details at: > > http://www.linotype.com/6987/linotypewirdmonotype.html > > NB - it's a single font

Re: [XeTeX] M'aidez, SVP : ** WARNING ** Version of PDF file (1.6) is newer than version limit specification.

I can help you with your French, but not the warning: Philip Taylor a écrit: > As above, "m'aidez, SVP". It’s “aidez-moi”, not “m’aidez”. (That was intended as a friendly remark, of course, not one of those nasty comments by self-titled “grammarians”, whose knowledge in linguistics is as inexis

Re: [XeTeX] M'aidez, SVP : ** WARNING ** Version of PDF file (1.6) is newer than version limit specification.

Philip Taylor a écrit: > "M'aidez" v. "Aidez-moi" v. "Mayday" : the OED has this to say -- > > > Etymology: < French m'aidez or m'aider ‘help me!’ (the latter being > > either the imperative infinitive or short for venez m'aider ‘come and > > help me!’; < me , first person direct object pronoun

Re: [XeTeX] M'aidez, SVP : ** WARNING ** Version of PDF file (1.6) is newer than version limit specification.

> Philip Taylor wrote: > > > No no ! The OED says "< French m'aidez or m'aider ‘help me!’". > > "French", in OED-speak, is Modern French; "OF" is how it denotes > > Old French. > > Well, I might be wrong. The 2001 revision lists the following > French-related languages : > > > French > > > >

Re: [XeTeX] Contextual shaping

"Simon Cozens" : > This is possibly a daft question, but... > > In traditional TeX, character tokens are processed and put into boxes > individually, with fairly primitive ligature tables. Obviously XeTeX > doesn't > do this, using Harfbuzz (or ICU or whatever) to do the shaping and > layout. > >