Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread NathanStuder
On 11/02/2017 01:34 PM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 10/27/2017 04:09 PM, NathanStuder wrote: >> >> >> On 10/09/2017 10:14 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen wrote: On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > [Cc-list modified b

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread George Dunlap
On 10/27/2017 04:09 PM, NathanStuder wrote: > > > On 10/09/2017 10:14 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> >>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] On M

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 10:46:20AM +, George Dunlap wrote: > On 11/01/2017 05:10 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk > >> wrote: > +### Soft-reset for PV guests > >>

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread George Dunlap
On 11/01/2017 05:10 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk >> wrote: +### Soft-reset for PV guests >>> >>> s/PV/HVM/ >> >> Is it? I thought this was for RHEL 5 PV guests to be

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-01 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk > wrote: > >> +### Soft-reset for PV guests > > > > s/PV/HVM/ > > Is it? I thought this was for RHEL 5 PV guests to be able to do crash > kernels. > > >> +### Transcendent Me

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-01 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/12/2017 08:52 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> +### Xen Framebuffer >>> + >>> +Status, Linux: Supported >> >> Frontend? > > Yes, please. If you write "Xen Framebuffer" I only take it to mean the > protocol as should be documented somewhere under docs/. Then I read > Linux, and I don't u

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-01 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/12/2017 11:39 AM, Roger Pau Monné wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> +## Toolstack >> + >> +### xl >> + >> +Status: Supported >> + >> +### Direct-boot kernel image format >> + >> +Supported, x86: bzImage > > ELF > >> +Supported, ARM32: zIm

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-27 Thread NathanStuder
On 10/09/2017 10:14 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > >> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>> [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] >>> >>> On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-26 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 26/10/17 10:19, Jan Beulich wrote: On 25.10.17 at 13:30, wrote: >> On 25/10/17 11:59, George Dunlap wrote: > +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 > +Limit, ARM32: 8 > +Limit, ARM64: 128 > + > +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add "Limit-Security" here for

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-26 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 25.10.17 at 13:30, wrote: > On 25/10/17 11:59, George Dunlap wrote: +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 +Limit, ARM32: 8 +Limit, ARM64: 128 + +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add "Limit-Security" here for some of these?] >>> 32 for each

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-25 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 25/10/17 11:59, George Dunlap wrote: >>> +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 >>> +Limit, ARM32: 8 >>> +Limit, ARM64: 128 >>> + >>> +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add "Limit-Security" here for some of >>> these?] >> 32 for each. 64 vcpu HVM guests can excerpt enough p2

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-25 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 24/10/17 11:27, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 10/23/2017 06:55 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >>> On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> +### x

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread George Dunlap
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >> +### Soft-reset for PV guests > > s/PV/HVM/ Is it? I thought this was for RHEL 5 PV guests to be able to do crash kernels. >> +### Transcendent Memory >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +[XXX Add description] > > Guests wit

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Rich Persaud wrote: >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 13:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> +### XSM & FLASK >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +Compile time disabled >> + >> +### XSM & FLASK support for IS_PRIV >> + >> +Status: Experimental > > In which specific area

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 24/10/17 11:27, George Dunlap wrote: > On 10/23/2017 06:55 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >> On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: >>> On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: > +### x86/RAM > + > +Limit, x86: 16TiB > +Limit, A

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 23/10/2017 18:55, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 +Limit, ARM32: 8 +Limit, ARM64: 128 + +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add "Limit-Security

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread George Dunlap
On 10/23/2017 06:55 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >>> On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: +### x86/RAM + +Limit, x86: 16TiB +Limit, ARM32: 16GiB +Limit, ARM64: 5TiB + >

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-23 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Andrew Cooper wrote: > >>> +### x86 PV/Event Channels > >>> + > >>> +Limit: 131072 > >> Why do we call out event channel limits but not grant table limits? > >> Also, why is this x86? The 2l and fifo ABIs are arch agnostic, as far > >> as I am aware. > > Sure, but I'm pre

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-23 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: > On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >> On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: >>> +### x86/RAM >>> + >>> +Limit, x86: 16TiB >>> +Limit, ARM32: 16GiB >>> +Limit, ARM64: 5TiB >>> + >>> +[XXX: Andy to suggest what this should say for x86]

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-23 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> +### x86/PV >> + >> +Status: Supported >> + >> +Traditional Xen Project PV guest > > What's a "Xen Project" PV guest? Just Xen here. > > Also, a perhaps a statement of "No hardware requirements" ? OK.

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-09 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen > wrote: > > > > On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >> [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] >> >> On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: +#

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-09 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 12 Sep 2017, at 16:35, Rich Persaud wrote: > >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 13:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> +### XSM & FLASK >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +Compile time disabled >> + >> +### XSM & FLASK support for IS_PRIV >> + >> +Status: Experimental > > In which specific are

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-27 Thread Robert VanVossen
On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] > > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: >>> +### RTDS based Scheduler >>> + >>> +Status: Experimental >>> + >>> +

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-27 Thread Dario Faggioli
On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 08:57 -0400, Robert VanVossen wrote: > On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] > > > > Actually, the best candidate for gaining security support, is IMO > > ARINC. Code is also rather simple and "stable" (

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-26 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/26/2017 12:10 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: >> +### RTDS based Scheduler >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +A soft real-time CPU scheduler built to provide guaranteed CPU capacity to >> guest VMs on SMP hosts >> + >> +### ARINC653 Scheduler

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-26 Thread Dario Faggioli
[Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: > > +### RTDS based Scheduler > > + > > +Status: Experimental > > + > > +A soft real-time CPU scheduler built to provide guara

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-25 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: > +### RTDS based Scheduler > + > +Status: Experimental > + > +A soft real-time CPU scheduler built to provide guaranteed CPU capacity to > guest VMs on SMP hosts > + > +### ARINC653 Scheduler > + > +Status: Supported, Not security supported > + >

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-15 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> +### Soft-reset for PV guests s/PV/HVM/ > + > +Status: Supported > + > +Soft-reset allows a new kernel to start 'from scratch' with a fresh VM > state, > +but with all the memory from the previous state of the VM intact. > +This is primarily designed to allow "crash kernels", > +wh

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 12/09/2017 20:52, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Roger Pau Monné wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: +## Scalability + +### 1GB/2MB super page support + +Status: Supported This needs something like: Status, x86 HVM/PVH: Supported

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Roger Pau Monné wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > > +## Toolstack > > + > > +### xl > > + > > +Status: Supported > > + > > +### Direct-boot kernel image format > > + > > +Supported, x86: bzImage > > ELF > > > +Supported, ARM

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Rich Persaud
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 13:01, George Dunlap wrote: > > +### XSM & FLASK > + > +Status: Experimental > + > +Compile time disabled > + > +### XSM & FLASK support for IS_PRIV > + > +Status: Experimental In which specific areas is XSM lacking in Functional completeness, Functional stability

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/11/2017 06:01 PM, George Dunlap wrote: > Add a machine-readable file to describe what features are in what > state of being 'supported', as well as information about how long this > release will be supported, and so on. > > The document should be formatted using "semantic newlines" [1], to m

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Roger Pau Monné
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > +## Toolstack > + > +### xl > + > +Status: Supported > + > +### Direct-boot kernel image format > + > +Supported, x86: bzImage ELF > +Supported, ARM32: zImage > +Supported, ARM64: Image > + > +Format which the toolst

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Wei Liu
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:53:55PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: > > +### x86/PV > > + > > +Status: Supported > > + > > +Traditional Xen Project PV guest > > What's a "Xen Project" PV guest? Just Xen here. > > Also, a perhaps a statement of "No hardwar

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 11.09.17 at 19:53, wrote: > As for practical limits, I don't think its reasonable to claim anything > which we can't test. What are the specs in the MA colo? I don't think the MA colo's limits ought to be the only ones applicable here, and it looks like you think this way too: >> +### Vi

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-11 Thread Juergen Gross
On 11/09/17 19:01, George Dunlap wrote: > Add a machine-readable file to describe what features are in what > state of being 'supported', as well as information about how long this > release will be supported, and so on. > > The document should be formatted using "semantic newlines" [1], to make >

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-11 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: > +### x86/PV > + > +Status: Supported > + > +Traditional Xen Project PV guest What's a "Xen Project" PV guest? Just Xen here. Also, a perhaps a statement of "No hardware requirements" ? > +### x86/RAM > + > +Limit, x86: 16TiB > +Limit, ARM32:

[Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-11 Thread George Dunlap
Add a machine-readable file to describe what features are in what state of being 'supported', as well as information about how long this release will be supported, and so on. The document should be formatted using "semantic newlines" [1], to make changes easier. Signed-off-by: Ian Jackson Signed