Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Dirk Räder
2012/3/5 Bruce Cran : > On 05/03/2012 07:04, Dirk Räder wrote: >> >> will there be any kind of offline installer available? I mean a real >> installer that does all the necessary registry and environment >> operations, not the /layout switch that just drops the file structure. > > > /layout just ge

Re: [WiX-users] [WIX-users] Patch in Wix 3.6 is empty. warning PYRO1079: The cabinet '***.cab' does not contain any files

2012-03-05 Thread Peter Shirtcliffe
Does it make any difference if you add a PatchFamily element ? -Original Message- From: Leo Koivuniemi [mailto:universalserial...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 March 2012 08:46 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] [WIX-users] Patch in Wix 3.6 is empty. warn

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi Bruce, etc. The below news is somewhat distressing for those of us who have no Internet connection at all on our development workstations and have to use others (non-development machines) to get such access. Is downloading the /layout way and then (say) moving a directory or something going

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Bruce Cran
On 05/03/2012 14:01, keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca wrote: > The below news is somewhat distressing for those of us who have no Internet > connection at all on our development workstations and have to use others > (non-development machines) to get such access. Is downloading the /layout way > and t

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Christopher Painter
Other then being allowing WiX to dogfood Burn, what benefit does the WiX installer even gain from using Burn? I thought the old Mondo UI looked just fine and it was a simpler 1 MSI story to boot. My experience with the Burn based WiX installers is that user experience is inferior relative t

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Rob Mensching
Bruce is correct. You will need to be connected to the internet to get the executable and then run the /layout switch. The /layout switch will create a full "DVD" image locally that will not need internet access. Doing all this on a Mac was never a goal. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Bruce Cra

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Rob Mensching
1. The WiX install *does* chain NETFX 4 in because that is needed before the WiX BA can show UI (since the WiX BA is written in WPF). 2. Dogfooding is the primary reason. 3. We save *significant* bandwidth using Burn because during normal installs it only downloads the portions of the product tha

Re: [WiX-users] Visual Studio 11 Support Timeline?

2012-03-05 Thread Raphael Schweizer
Thanks ... now migrating VS setup projects. - Raphael -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Samstag, 3. März 2012 04:38 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Visual Studio 11 Support Timeline? WiX v3.6 Be

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Christopher Painter
Rob, Regarding /layout, all developers *SHOULD* be doing it despite losing those "savings". (Assuming any savings is actually realized based on how many developers are installing the software. ) Anyone involved in the process of developing software ( especially build and release engineering

Re: [WiX-users] Cached MSI getting deleted in maintenance mode

2012-03-05 Thread Meera Jindal
Resending Regards Meera On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Meera Jindal wrote: > Hi, > > We are using Wix version 2 in our product and at some point in the future > we would be migrating to version 3.5/3.6. > > Our product is localized and for achieving localization we use Wix > bootstrapper(setup

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Albert van Peppen
I agree 100% with this. That is basically why I keep the entire history of WiX in my repository (diskspace isn't that expensive nowadays :) ) Best regards, Albert van Peppen Senior System Engineer Insad Grafisch b.v. Mollevite 28 6931 KG  Westervoort The Netherlands Phone: *31 (0) 26 319 01 5

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
Often corporate policies restrict internet access in such a way where asking each development machine to download the packages is actually very painful. Local caches (which should be accessible directly on the target server _or_ a local network share _or_ on a local web server) should be support

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Bruce Cran
On 05/03/2012 17:03, Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) wrote: > Often corporate policies restrict internet access in such a way where asking > each development machine to download the packages is actually very painful. > Local caches (which should be accessible directly on the target server _or_ a >

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
Bruce, can you provide a direct link to the thread? I'm having trouble finding it. Edwin G. Castro Software Developer - Staff Digital Channels Fiserv Office: 503-746-0643 Fax: 503-617-0291 www.fiserv.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > -Original Message-

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Bruce Cran
On 05/03/2012 17:13, Bruce Cran wrote: > There was a rather lengthy discussion about this wrt driver > development at > http://www.osronline.com/cf.cfm?PageURL=showlists.cfm?list=NTDEV a few > days ago. The link to the actual thread is http://www.osronline.com/showthread.cfm?link=220737 --

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread James Johnston
Also agree 100% on this for the reasons Chris mentions. The rest of this message is my (perhaps strong) opinion on web setups. Web setups for development tools in general encourage bad habits. It might not be such a big deal with "consumer" software on home computers, like Acrobat Reader & compa

[WiX-users] Mouseover

2012-03-05 Thread James DellaRosa
I was wondering if there was any way to have text show up when a user hover's over a checkbox? For example let's say that someone has a few checkboxes that they can select from that would allow them to install separate products (FeatureX, FeatureY, FeatureZ). I want to be able to have the use

Re: [WiX-users] Mouseover

2012-03-05 Thread Chad Petersen
Check out the ToolTip attribute of the Control element. Should do exactly what you are looking for. At least that is how I use it. -Original Message- From: James DellaRosa [mailto:jdellar...@aspexcorp.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 12:35 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject

Re: [WiX-users] Mouseover

2012-03-05 Thread James DellaRosa
That works as far as a hover over event is concerned thanks! Now a more difficult concept... is there a way to make it so that the ToolTip attribute can reference another control, say a text control? -Original Message- From: Chad Petersen [mailto:chad.peter...@harlandfs.com] Sent: Monda

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I don't believe there is any value in WiX being a web based install (other than the very valid point about dog fooding the code). In addition the new install forces me to install .Net 4.0 just because the installer needs it; I would like that to be optional as I don't like polluting build machin

Re: [WiX-users] Mouseover

2012-03-05 Thread Chad Petersen
I'm not sure if the ToolTip attribute works on a Text Control. I'll let you experiment. -Original Message- From: James DellaRosa [mailto:jdellar...@aspexcorp.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 1:10 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Mouse

[WiX-users] Registering/Unregistering ActiveX contolrs

2012-03-05 Thread Brad Smith
Hi, I'm wanting to register my old-school ActiveX control (PDFViewer.ocx) during installation to use in my .NET application. Umm, how do I do it in WIX? I'm new to WIX, and from what I've seen so far this product looks very good. My research has lead me to the following choices: 1.

Re: [WiX-users] Registering/Unregistering ActiveX contolrs

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Osmond
Hi Brad, My experience is that you need to work out what the class registrations are (either by Harvesting or otherwise) and do these using the Registry elements in the installation. Doing so gives you "registration" on install and removal afterwards. It's a bit of a pain to setup the first

Re: [WiX-users] Registering/Unregistering ActiveX contolrs

2012-03-05 Thread Brad Smith
Hi Mike, Thanks for your insights - just a question What tool(s) did you use to find the differences in the registry? Brad. -Original Message- From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:24 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML t

Re: [WiX-users] Registering/Unregistering ActiveX contolrs

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Osmond
Brad, One time I used the tools that were with WIX 2.0, but I can't remember the name anymore. After that I just manually register the file, and then look in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT looking for the object names and then the CLASSID\{guid} keys. These were the two pieces I export and work from. H

Re: [WiX-users] Wow!

2012-03-05 Thread Rob Mensching
Dogfooding is very important. It's the way we learn how to do things better than we are doing them now (aka: we make mistakes, get feedback and adjust appropriately). As I noted above, it is pretty clear that we need to focus on improving the /layout experience for the WiX toolset. The WDK did thi

[WiX-users] Pyro error: PYRO0227

2012-03-05 Thread tomer.c
Hi all, I'm having trouble with pyro, I get the PYRO0227 error even though I know there are changes between the files it's comparing. I even debugged the pyro c# code, what I saw was that the FileManager.CompareFiles works great, and the rows are marked RowOperation.Modify. but the GenerateTransfor